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villain is a fish

On April 09 2011 16:21 Night2o1 wrote: villain is a fish

uhm, is that your reasoning for not betting turn? Its not like he's going to fold any pair here on this turn anyway

I wanted to x/r turn vs Kx which he isn't going to raise vs a bet I think.. board pairing cards are pretty scary to fish too.. doubt I'm getting 3 barrels out of his 1pair hands.. open to suggestions

i think c/r or c-c flop is better depending on villain, if you donk flop i don't see the point of not also betting turn. aside from making some FPS-ish assumptions.

edit - meh didn't see villain was a fish, i like flop lead a little more in that case but i don't agree with the turn check, i'm not sure i agree with what you said about fish viewing pairing board as scary when you bet, in my experience they don't like to believe.

wait im confused is this night's hand or jeff's hand lol

and why cant i see what villain mucked ;o

my hand lol he ninjad it from observer

On April 09 2011 16:36 bigredhoss wrote: wait im confused is this night's hand or jeff's hand lol and why cant i see what villain mucked ;o

The 2nd statement should answer your question imo

so cranky sounding jeff

I really don't like leading this texture because you just miss out on a cbet a lot.

I would most definitely bet turn because if villain is peeling flop with midpairs and such the K is a card that will give him even more of a reason to peel.

River bet is standard.

On April 09 2011 16:43 edzwoo wrote: I really don't like leading this texture because you just miss out on a cbet a lot. I would most definitely bet turn because if villain is peeling flop with midpairs and such the K is a card that will give him even more of a reason to peel. River bet is standard.

this is how fish think?

On April 09 2011 16:40 Night2o1 wrote: so cranky sounding jeff

just pointing out he answered his own question

well it could be night observing your hand and posting on your lp account and then switching accounts back when you make comments

wait...
Night-> Observes Jeff's hand that Jeff plays
Night -> Logs in to Jeff's account on LP+posts the hand
Jeff-> Logs into his account-> Comments on his own hand on his account, posted by NIght
Night-> logs out of Jeff's account, logs into Night's account and comments on Jeff's hand posted by Night

:O

lol

On April 09 2011 16:43 edzwoo wrote: I really don't like leading this texture because you just miss out on a cbet a lot. I would most definitely bet turn because if villain is peeling flop with midpairs and such the K is a card that will give him even more of a reason to peel. River bet is standard.

This.

On April 09 2011 17:05 LemOn[5thF] wrote: wait... Night-> Observes Jeff's hand that Jeff plays Night -> Logs in to Jeff's account on LP+posts the hand Jeff-> Logs into his account-> Comments on his own hand on his account, posted by NIght Night-> logs out of Jeff's account, logs into Night's account and comments on Jeff's hand posted by Night :O

Gotta always expect the unexpected @ LPn

3barrel this shit

Id just 3brrl.

On April 09 2011 17:18 Bigbobm wrote: 3barrel this shit

obv

fold or rr pre too????

On April 09 2011 17:25 KeyleK_uk wrote: fold or rr pre too????

Why??

if you check turn you should CR river IMO

because your pot odds are bad, you're out of position, you're one in eight (or thereabouts) to flop a set and assuming he cbets almost every time you c/f 7 out of 8 times and might nto even win a big pot when you hit as a set.

His hand range to raise the button are so loose, or should be, that theres not alot of flops where you flop a set where you're going to get value on your set. Here you hit a dream flop/turn (didnt see villains hand) and you won 38 dollars (+ preflop) from the 5 dollar preflop call..

Any of this make any sense?

On April 09 2011 17:32 TalentedTom wrote: if you check turn you should CR river IMO

Certainly can't argue with that

in general i think raise>fold>call pre?? Any1 disagree? obv opponent depending, there are some spots where this is a call preflop with 100 bb but not sure many, like might want to call pre if button is massive station fish, or 2% raise preflop(from btn) or bb is a complete retard station too and u keep him in

On April 09 2011 17:32 TalentedTom wrote: if you check turn you should CR river IMO

Because there shouldn't be TOO much that is calling the river but isn't betting it if checked too -_- esp with what his range should be with flatting that flop

K on turn is the perfect card to dbl barrel, and then 3rd barrel if called

On April 09 2011 17:33 KeyleK_uk wrote: because your pot odds are bad, you're out of position, you're one in eight (or thereabouts) to flop a set and assuming he cbets almost every time you c/f 7 out of 8 times and might nto even win a big pot when you hit as a set. His hand range to raise the button are so loose, or should be, that theres not alot of flops where you flop a set where you're going to get value on your set. Here you hit a dream flop/turn (didnt see villains hand) and you won 38 dollars (+ preflop) from the 5 dollar preflop call.. Any of this make any sense?

you dont need a set to raise the flop -.-

On April 09 2011 18:00 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2011 17:33 KeyleK_uk wrote: because your pot odds are bad, you're out of position, you're one in eight (or thereabouts) to flop a set and assuming he cbets almost every time you c/f 7 out of 8 times and might nto even win a big pot when you hit as a set. His hand range to raise the button are so loose, or should be, that theres not alot of flops where you flop a set where you're going to get value on your set. Here you hit a dream flop/turn (didnt see villains hand) and you won 38 dollars (+ preflop) from the 5 dollar preflop call.. Any of this make any sense? you dont need a set to raise the flop -.-

True but playing a hand that flops badly and habitually c/r flops oop vs fish or good players is going to be hard to pull off, I mean if you can play it good enough oop i suppose a flat may be better than a fold vs fish but i believe a r/r is still better for an overall game.

when i see people 3 betting me with low pp i call theri 3 bet and raise any flop
then they get fucking owned
because hey...they only flop a set 1 out of 8 times
-.-

On April 09 2011 19:09 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: when i see people 3 betting me with low pp i call theri 3 bet and raise any flop then they get fucking owned because hey...they only flop a set 1 out of 8 times -.-

when i see people raising flop all the time after i 3bet them with a pp, i just 3bet jam cause they're bluffing too much!

On April 09 2011 19:09 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: when i see people 3 betting me with low pp i call theri 3 bet and raise any flop then they get fucking owned because hey...they only flop a set 1 out of 8 times -.-

Too arrogant