He calls open 14% /pretty wide, some 16% in BB over small sample
0/3 check raise
0 3bet in blinds over 80 hand sample, so most TT JJ are probably in his range when I iso to 5bb.

I was playing ABC 20/17 game as I do these days usually

Do you agree with my line?
What would you do on a turn rag against a bet?

i think your line is ok as long as u dont fold on blank turn
8s obviously is one of the worst cards in the deck

So if rags come you call your stack off on turn +river?
Or do you just fuck it and ship rag turn?

(I can't see myself folding on a river rag after calling turn when there will be 50-75% left depending on his turn sizing, and there is so many cards we hate)

i would donk turn if its a blank
ppl love to raise ip with semibluff but as u donk the turn you make him cost much to see the river
but you have to know can he do this with semibluff or value range only

as played I think it's fine. always call his flop c/r and re-ev. imo

if turn is a brick without reads it will be hard to continue. I would think: if he takes his time he will be more likely to have JJ/TT/JT/55, whereas if he bets faster/and or larger it will be more like draws or overplayed pairs like AJ. If he checks you can b/re-ev again imo or check behind for showdown and river situations.

On June 09 2011 10:32 sunnysky7 wrote: i would donk turn if its a blank ppl love to raise ip with semibluff but as u donk the turn you make him cost much to see the river but you have to know can he do this with semibluff or value range only

80 hand sample, what can I know

When you donk it's to donk call?

On June 09 2011 10:48 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2011 10:32 sunnysky7 wrote: i would donk turn if its a blank ppl love to raise ip with semibluff but as u donk the turn you make him cost much to see the river but you have to know can he do this with semibluff or value range only 80 hand sample, what can I know When you donk it's to donk call?

donk/fold probably , he would call the draws or top pair type hand without much thinking
and you should notice time telling stuff or how he react when you donk to him
but when he tank and jam then you are beat most of the time , i would only do this if i know hes bad and not thinking too deep
good and aggro opponent would just shove over no matter what he had
bet/call the flop , donk turn would be a okay play to find out where you stand and also charge the draw imo

And in what universe can you donk IP lol

On June 09 2011 13:54 jeffv8x_-_16 wrote: And in what universe can you donk IP lol

lololol

On June 09 2011 13:54 jeffv8x_-_16 wrote: And in what universe can you donk IP lol

lololol.

At least I know how to play oop now

lol , sorry about missreading something , IP this is totally std and well played no doubt

At the low stakes sometimes people play exploitable enough you can just fold flop. You would have to have a good read though. I like your line.