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Handnr: 911231
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, July 01, 07:35:35 ET 2011
Table Abetti IV Real Money
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 3: Player3 $21.75 USD - VPIP: 63, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 0.3, Hands: 8
Seat 4: Player4 $62.55 USD - VPIP: 29, PFR: 29, 3B: 10, AF: Infinity, Hands: 28
Seat 5: Player5 $49.50 USD - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 1.5, Hands: 663
Seat 6: Hero $56.10 USD - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.4, Hands: 274174
Player5 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.50 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [KcAs ]
Player3 folds
Player4 raises [$1.00 USD]
Player5 raises [$3.75 USD]
Hero:

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jul 01 2011 10:39. Posts 15163

ABC player, 3bets 6% from blinds
fold to 4b 0/2
4bet range 2.3%

OR steals I think any two in this spot to this size.


 
*PRE*
iso A2s 5bb
*3B*
*POST*
cf jtx s bvb



Not sure why I don't have more reads, I probably just let him be as he plays tight/straightforward.
He will have my standard 19/6 6% 3bet stats, I was fairly tight at the table.

Basically what I thought is that against a minraise his range should be wider that his usual 6% which should tip a 4b call into +EV, is it the best play though?

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longple    Sweden. Jul 01 2011 11:24. Posts 4472

both calling and 4betting is fine, he is 3betting so small i think u can call without feeling to bad about it u got position on him for a low variance spot

u can click it and u can 4bet standard, anything u do is fine basically


Eluflop   Estonia. Jul 01 2011 11:25. Posts 3835

you are 4 handed , you have AK , player 4 looks loose over 28 hands, the nit knows this and might be doing this with a wide range = 4bet and call ship


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jul 01 2011 11:36. Posts 15163

K thanks, I was a bit put off by him being a nit and having ABC tag (and results obviously )

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TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 01 2011 11:42. Posts 20070

this is one of those spots where absolute numbers are generally wrong, a lose player min opens from the CO and someoen who you think is tight 3-bets him, chances are his 3b % in this spot is much higher then the HUD shows for basic reasons (the min open, and its CO v BTN) making this a super ez 4b

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jul 01 2011 12:39. Posts 15163

yeah that's what I thought, I was fairly happy to 4b call because of that. So we decide 4b call, what would be your sizing when he makes it so small (he 3bet to $4)?

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Eluflop   Estonia. Jul 01 2011 13:29. Posts 3835

13-14ish imo


the cleaner   Germany. Jul 01 2011 13:56. Posts 3014

i would 4bet to 10$/call shove.

there are no facts only interpretations 

longple    Sweden. Jul 01 2011 14:08. Posts 4472

8 DORRAH


truffesbio4920   . Jul 01 2011 14:44. Posts 111

Id call


n0rthf4ce    United States. Jul 01 2011 17:34. Posts 8119

I think he's asking which is more +EV...calling or 4betting? If he's not gonna go nuts with aq-a10, kq pf and if he's not gonna fold 99-JJ ever and if we can get at least 2 streets on a/k hi flops I think calling is better

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n0rthf4ce    United States. Jul 01 2011 17:41. Posts 8119

Obv those 3 factors will never all be 100% true and 4betting or even min4betting may truly be most +EV vs this guy...I just don't know!

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truffesbio4920   . Jul 01 2011 18:16. Posts 111

in my experience a 4bet will look super strong in this spot. so I think it will fold out a lot (of both players ranges) and I'm not really happy 4b/calling without history here. I think it's a good spot to firstly 4b bluff
my reasoning for calling would be to keep dominated hands in the pot. also it keeps the button in the pot alot of the time which is good because we have AK and the pot will be fairly large already.


 

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