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Handnr: 911685
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, July 06, 07:12:59 ET 2011
Table Feodosia IV Real Money
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $25.00 USD - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 4, AF: 2.1, Hands: 512
Seat 2: Player2 $10.50 USD - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 5
Seat 3: Player3 $25.00 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 22, 3B: 6, AF: Infinity, Hands: 51
Seat 4: Player4 $7.11 USD - VPIP: 40, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 5
Seat 5: Hero $25.00 USD - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.4, Hands: 277185
Seat 6: Player6 $15.53 USD - VPIP: 20, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 5
Player6 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Player1 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [2s2d ]
Player2 folds
Player3 raises [$0.75 USD]
Player4 folds
Hero calls [$0.75 USD]
Player6 folds
Player1 folds

Flop (Pot : $1.85)

   4cKh2c
Player3 checks
Hero bets [$1.30 USD]
Player3 raises [$4.00 USD]
Hero raises [$8.70 USD]
Player3 raises [$20.25 USD]
Hero calls [$14.25 USD]

Turn (Pot : $45.05)

   4cKh2c3s

River (Pot : $45.05)

   4cKh2c3sJc
Player3 shows KcAc
Hero shows 2s2d
Player3 wins $48.35 USD from main pot

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jul 06 2011 07:30. Posts 15163

Ok I shall give you a showdown hand

I actually don't mind his play here, I was largely unknown I played pretty loose aggro at the table it seems like a pretty cool line at NL25 if he doesn't expect me to check behind fd and KX and bet/barrel air some, he's getting one street max from anything else anyway and people rarely fold flush draws KX to any action

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93% Sure! Last edit: 06/07/2011 07:34

sChOuA   Switzerland. Jul 06 2011 07:39. Posts 2302

How could you mind his play getting it in with TPTK and nutflushdraw?
as standard as it can get


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jul 06 2011 07:40. Posts 15163


  On July 06 2011 06:39 sChOuA wrote:
How could you mind his play getting it in with TPTK and nutflushdraw?
as standard as it can get


I mean the c/r as pfr, should I be doing it more with a hand like this? I think mine is close to 0

93% Sure! Last edit: 06/07/2011 07:46

johnmagi   Norway. Jul 06 2011 08:00. Posts 1424

Prob not bad when he crushes the board like this.. He allways get action when you have a set anyways, and he well
often let you catch up to the second best hand if it goes X/X


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jul 06 2011 08:05. Posts 15163

Yeah, now the question is do we think the line has higher EV than betting?

How would it change against various villains?

Loose passive
must be a bet so much value leaked by checking
Standard reg
?
Aggro reg/aggro fishy
I like the check better,especially at micros

93% Sure!  

Arirang   Canada. Jul 06 2011 08:33. Posts 1673

nothing beats pot pot pot and he should've pot pot potted imo.


k4ir0s   Canada. Jul 06 2011 08:35. Posts 3478

I sometimes do this when im strong on boards where i'll usually cf on when I miss (boards like 894), knowing that regs usually bet in position when checked too. Sometimes they call me down with hands where i'd usually get less value from by cbetting.

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly 

Arirang   Canada. Jul 06 2011 08:53. Posts 1673

Villain crushes this board so when he makes strong moves like that on flop, he's only going to get called by better hands (like he did here). This is a juicy spot for villain where he can make a lot of money off of just about hero's entire range. And with his move, he would only drive out a lot of pairs that he has it beat. His hand is well protected, what does his c/r really achieve is beyond me.


TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 06 2011 13:18. Posts 20070

u guys are really funny.. villians play is fine, i perfer to bet, but theres no wrong way to play a nutted hand like this

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 06 2011 13:20. Posts 20070


  On July 06 2011 07:53 Arirang wrote:
Villain crushes this board so when he makes strong moves like that on flop, he's only going to get called by better hands (like he did here). This is a juicy spot for villain where he can make a lot of money off of just about hero's entire range. And with his move, he would only drive out a lot of pairs that he has it beat. His hand is well protected, what does his c/r really achieve is beyond me.



you prob dont know this but we only have a better hand then villian here less then 3-4% of the time

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

AndrewSong    United States. Jul 06 2011 14:48. Posts 2355


  On July 06 2011 07:53 Arirang wrote:
Villain crushes this board so when he makes strong moves like that on flop, he's only going to get called by better hands (like he did here). This is a juicy spot for villain where he can make a lot of money off of just about hero's entire range. And with his move, he would only drive out a lot of pairs that he has it beat. His hand is well protected, what does his c/r really achieve is beyond me.



Agreed. Minus the better hand part. If villain were to continue the hand, he should c/c. c/r is worst option by far


 

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