ABC multitabler. Folded 9/10 to donk and never raised
Low cbet like 50%
He also folds a lot to 3bets, some 70% OTB

Would you relentlessly call him with suited junk when he opens LP, donk all flops that should miss his range and 3bet him with with any Kx Ax until he adjusts? I got him on 2-3 tables

this is little too loose lol.

With the odds I am getting just have to take it down 30% of the time postfop, aren't we well within that when he plays so bad/honest against donk bets? I have *some* equity

On July 09 2011 06:51 LemOn[5thF] wrote: With the odds I am getting just have to take it down 30% of the time postfop, aren't we well within that when he plays so bad/honest against donk bets? I have *some* equity

Its far too early for maths but where do you get 30% from?

You're investing $1.80 to win his 75cents. (50cent preflop, $1.30 donkbet)

This has to work over 70% of the time to be profitable? (i'm probably being very retarded here, just can't make sense of it xD)

you're risking 1.3+0.5 = 1.8 to win 2.9 (including your bets), so why 30% and not 60%?

edit: a little late

30% is my PF odds, but yeah if you count the bet you are right

9/10 fold to donk isnt a big enough sample to justify playing this loose imo.

you should bet a bit less than pot for your odds to be 30%
but now it's 45%

On July 09 2011 07:09 Stroggoz wrote: 9/10 fold to donk isnt a big enough sample to justify playing this loose imo.

He is just overall weak fit fold and seems to snapfold when someone bets and he doesn't have a hand, I mean why not keep trying until we know he is capable of adjusting?

On July 09 2011 07:10 thrust123 wrote: you should bet a bit less than pot for your odds to be 30% but now it's 45%

I don't know, my brain doesn't work I had this weird tilt past 3-4days, I watched a lot of big game and read a very hard to read book like 100 pages/day AND I now I can't process math or think too hard lol. And I consider myself pretty good at math side of poker usually.


And it's 60% if you pure bluff, when I hit like here I have ~20% equity against his calling range as a bonus

On July 09 2011 07:11 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 07:09 Stroggoz wrote: 9/10 fold to donk isnt a big enough sample to justify playing this loose imo. He is just overall weak fit fold and seems to snapfold when someone bets and he doesn't have a hand, I mean why not keep trying until we know he is capable of adjusting?

i guess its justifiable then if they are one of those players that seems to never adjust, and there are only nits left to act. reminds me of a player i came across where i ran 45% 3bet over 200 hands, and just 3bet them over and over and they kept folding. Was making a good hourly off them lol.

This is a great creative exploitation using your reads. Proper poker imo.

On July 09 2011 07:20 Stroggoz wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 07:11 LemOn[5thF] wrote:   On July 09 2011 07:09 Stroggoz wrote: 9/10 fold to donk isnt a big enough sample to justify playing this loose imo. He is just overall weak fit fold and seems to snapfold when someone bets and he doesn't have a hand, I mean why not keep trying until we know he is capable of adjusting? i guess its justifiable then if they are one of those players that seems to never adjust, and there are only nits left to act. reminds me of a player i came across where i ran 45% 3bet over 200 hands, and just 3bet them over and over and they kept folding. Was making a good hourly off them lol.

yeah he is one of these guys, forever NL25, if you look at his cbet, fold to 3bet fold to donk, everything leads to frequencies that match the times when they make a hand.

I called a couple times with decent hands donked and he folded in the session and also folded to a 3bet, so I was like why not, let's attack him with 60% hands and see what happens

I like it.

lemon if ur read is right why not 3 bet?

just curious

On July 09 2011 17:25 ShaperofDreams wrote: lemon if ur read is right why not 3 bet? just curious

He folds to donks almost every time so far, but to 3bet just 70%-80%

I think suited hands, even junky are better to play post flop as his continuing range will have hands like KXo QXo always dominated. I think it's better to flat with low suited hands and 3bet with offsuit hands that have A Q or K in them - I have a blocker+am not completely crushed by most pocket pairs as happens with low suited hands when he calls my 3bet.

I'd just fold low unconnected unsuited hands w/o QKA