He played some 15/6 after 15-20 hands. My thought process in the hand was...sets discounted....seems nitty.... Me want pot.

I actually thought about it and the biggest issue is that I have the Ac so I block most FD combos a nit can have, so I am basically trying to hammer an unknown out of good TP+ ewww...
The shove just sucks and I should have just given up, however...if I play it like this and river is a club I can still shove and consider it non-spewy with the Ac?

Is turn bet always bad on a rag?

i mean, saying sets are discounted because he's 15/6 over ~20 hands is silly but i think you know that. since a lot of people who are nits pre are stations postflop i think the logic for bluffing here is pretty bad, same thing if river is a club, i would rather try to do this vs a 24/21 or something (although i usually wouldn't do it then either).

On July 20 2011 09:38 bigredhoss wrote: i mean, saying sets are discounted because he's 15/6 over ~20 hands is silly but i think you know that. since a lot of people who are nits pre are stations postflop i think the logic for bluffing here is pretty bad, same thing if river is a club, i would rather try to do this vs a 24/21 or something (although i usually wouldn't do it then either).

Yeah well he ws almost an unknown, they would raise a set somewhere at least some % of the time. But even if I do discount ~40% set combos it doesn't change much does it, I still block draws and he has a strong range composed of made hands and he's an unknown at micros

this is bad , river is a pretty bad card for you to continue barraling
i like chk/fold turn