how can some1 snapcall here wtf

It started as gentleman's poker

SUDDENLY, STACKS FLYING

im surprised he even raised lol so sick must be a sick fish

no hes a reg

man u got ballz

he owned u, sick call imo

note that im overbetting river in the first place

i really really hate his raise and call, against me its probably fine (he dosnt have this information obviously), still pretty bad since i have him beat here sooooo often

who bluffs here? we dont have enough dynamic or history that should make him assume that i would recklessly put in 250bb in a supersmall singleraised pot just because his range is capped, i mean i have sooo many valuehands here :S

(i would though against any1 i assume is a decent handreader)

but he just dosnt know enough about me to make this call

with some history.. right? idk, just from these hands he looks like hes spewy/aggro reg.. so idk..

btw he is never getting called by worse on the river, im never calling with worse then A6 ever here

if that wasnt obvious to some

i crycall straight and A6 probably, K6 is really close between folding calling and bluffjamming

I would snap here as well, maybe not snap, but wait 5-10 sec and eventually call

are you 3-betting 88 vs button min opens?

you def dont have TT in your range, if you dont have 88 either bluff is cool in the sence that he can never have a boat/straight, but you rep too thin (i like this bluff BTW, i think you almost never get called, esp with stack sizes)

so if you never call with worse it should be a sick good spot to raise you as a bluff everytime right?

On July 31 2011 23:29 longple wrote: note that im overbetting river in the first place i really really hate his raise and call, against me its probably fine (he dosnt have this information obviously), still pretty bad since i have him beat here sooooo often who bluffs here? we dont have enough dynamic or history that should make him assume that i would recklessly put in 250bb in a supersmall singleraised pot just because his range is capped, i mean i have sooo many valuehands here :S (i would though against any1 i assume is a decent handreader) but he just dosnt know enough about me to make this call

must be an LP lurker hihi

On August 01 2011 00:19 TalentedTom wrote: are you 3-betting 88 vs button min opens? you def dont have TT in your range, if you dont have 88 either bluff is cool in the sence that he can never have a boat/straight, but you rep too thin (i like this bluff BTW, i think you almost never get called, esp with stack sizes)

i have all the 86o, 86s, 64o, 64s, T6o, T6s, 44, maybe 80% of 88

(and he should know this if hes been paying attention to that im almost completeing 100% from BB against BU minraises)

maybe 3bet 86s some % of the time but not often against minraise, being in BB

i think its a terrible raisefold for him if he decides to raise this hand against me in particular cuz im gonna go for it everytime, and my lead overbetlead range is wide enough probably

but he dosnt know : ( way to optimistic by him of first thinking that i leadoverbet river with a shitton of hands that he beats + that i need to turn all of them intobluffs, no one does this over a a fucking 10bb pot on the river

there are 120 combos of hands that beats him here that im gonna have in my range close to 100% of the time taking this line

since the top of his range is 64 followed by 44 (both of them he raises on the turn maybe 50% of the time), its not like im pulerised and only raise 88 or something and he knows i valuebet thin

he should even if he think about this give me creds for almost haveing the straight here aswell since he raise 44 and 64 so often on the turn

it is not a good spot for him to bluff because his range is capped and he might get rebluffed and revaluebetted so often its just not to good, he shouldnt have a raisecallrange here so therefor i guess he decided to raise snapcall cuz he has "the top of his range" and dosnt want to get exploited

(this btw is one of the biggest leaks for mid/highstakes imo, people being to afraid of getting exploited that they are doing these retardplays even against players who will have value here 100% of the time, they call to not get exploited by raise/folding 100% so they protectcall evertime instead, when the reality is folding is the way of exploiting this, or not raiseing in the first place with a capped range)

even if he thinks im capable of doing this often, as i guess he assumes, this is just to optimistic of a play of him thinking he induces bluffs over 66% of the time (wich is ~ the odds he needs)

you should move up where they respect your raises :<



on srs note:

river:
longple1 bets [$700.00 USD]
O7O74O4353 raises [$2400.00 USD]

from this raise it looks ( for me, i play lower, so plz dont be harsh ) like he sees your overbet as a bluff and wants to make it look like he re-bluffs you with 3.5x raise? ( so when you shove its what he was waiting for ) maybe he seen you doing something similar when he was on waiting list for this table?

but there's always simple explanation: 'i hit trips on the river, he is aggressive, i play for stacks'

He doesnt need 66%lol wtf no one ever.needs more than 50% you should know that

How can he not snapcall ur shove when his range is so weak and u both know it? The raise sucks but he knows exactly what he potentially induces

On August 01 2011 08:17 player999 wrote: He doesnt need 66%lol wtf no one ever.needs more than 50% you should know that

ye that was a serious brainfart, i ment the thing between 33% and 50% as he gets like 1.5:1 somehow i got 2:1 to 50%

so i guess 40% ^^

IMO the 2400 re-raise he puts on the river is never a bluff

On August 01 2011 09:22 n0rthf4ce wrote: How can he not snapcall ur shove when his range is so weak and u both know it? The raise sucks but he knows exactly what he potentially induces

If he raised the overbet to induce a bluffshove then... wow

On August 01 2011 12:23 casinocasino wrote: IMO the 2400 re-raise he puts on the river is never a bluff

its not that hes bluffing much its that he doesnt have the nuts and we do so hes gonna fold everything

raped lol.. europeans be crazy