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Handnr: 914588 Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, August 03, 04:55:38 ET 2011
Table Riema III Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $25.00 USD - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 3, AF: Infinity, Hands: 122
Seat 2: Player2 $15.39 USD - VPIP: 23, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 13
Seat 3: Player3 $26.15 USD - VPIP: 88, PFR: 31, 3B: 17, AF: 1.6, Hands: 16
Seat 4: Player4 $13.94 USD - VPIP: 14, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 2.5, Hands: 21
Seat 5: Hero $27.16 USD - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.4, Hands: 307542
Seat 6: Player6 $10.05 USD - VPIP: 36, PFR: 8, 3B: 1, AF: 2.7, Hands: 249
Player2 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
Holecards Dealt to Hero [ ]
Player4 folds
Hero raises [$0.85 USD]
Player6 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Player3 calls [$0.60 USD]
Flop (Pot : $1.80)
  Player3 checks
Hero checks
Turn (Pot : $1.80)
   Player3 checks
Hero bets [$1.38 USD]
Player3 raises [$2.76 USD]
Hero calls [$1.38 USD]
River (Pot : $7.32)
    Player3 bets [$3.50 USD]
Hero calls [$3.50 USD]
Player3 shows 
Player3 wins $13.63 USD from main pot
Hero doesn't show 
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NeillyJQ   United States. Aug 03 2011 05:06. Posts 8947 | | |
riv bet screams value call me! think u can release that there |
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Just remember you need to be god damn sure about their tendencies. -Artanis11 http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/neillyaa/ | |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 03 2011 05:07. Posts 15163 | | |
he seemed like a very aggro fish, I thought there is more value in bluffcatching, I can raise turn depending on his betsize and do all sorts of stuff on later streets, and I'd hate my life against a check raise.
The turn comes and he checks twice... I just didn't know y he would check twice with value hands, seems like a random spazz and you know...Getting a read like this one will make him so easy to play against and I can destroy him completely with this information as he donks a lot |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 03 2011 05:09. Posts 15163 | | |
1) is the flop check reasonable?
2) Is the calldown ok ? I expect it to be slightly -EV but only slightly, he's a tard and has to spazz just 25% of the time on the river, and the read I got is just great |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Aug 03 2011 06:00. Posts 8649 | | |
i don't really like flop check except vs the biggest spazzes. i dunno, you only have 16 hands on him, it would have to be a pretty spazzy sequence of hands to make me want to check, but maybe they were.
i like river call but i'm a station -.- |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 03 2011 06:15. Posts 15163 | | |
Yeah he was spewy and played 14/16 hands 
I don't fully grasp how you apply Bayesian probability to this he will be a spewmonkey ~70%++ of the time even based on the limited sample we got for sure |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Aug 03 2011 06:39. Posts 8649 | | |
well yuo didn't say anything about what he did in those 14/16 hands that was spewy~!
i mean obviously vs the majority of 80vpip whales flop is a slam-dunk c-bet, so he would kind of have to do something notable during those hands to make it a check. also i just realized i have no clue how AF is calculated. |
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Truck-Crash Life | Last edit: 03/08/2011 06:40 |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 03 2011 06:54. Posts 15163 | | |
post flop bet+raise frequency divided by call frequency |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 03 2011 06:55. Posts 15163 | | |
so if a guy has high VPIP and say 1.6AF and high WTSD he will be aggro with bullshit so often, but when a 10/9 has 4AF he actually can just nutpeddle and be pretty passive with air
EDIT: actually WTSD won't be accurate very, it's more like how often he continues past flop and generally when he missed |
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93% Sure! | Last edit: 03/08/2011 07:09 |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 03 2011 06:58. Posts 15163 | | |
but it's bs over small samples of course, in this case as far as I remember he was clicking buttons a lot, I made a mental note on him that he does that but didn't write down any specifics |
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johnmagi   Norway. Aug 03 2011 07:32. Posts 1424 | | |
I feel like you just should cbet flopp and play it standard, I think that will earn you the most money in the long run from a fish like this |
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