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Submitted by : Try2BePerfect

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, August 11, 12:11:21 ET 2011
Table Oriola VII Real Money
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $45.75 USD - VPIP: 38, PFR: 21, 3B: 6, AF: 1.2, Hands: 201
Seat 2: Player2 $100.00 USD - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 8, AF: 2.0, Hands: 91
Seat 3: Player3 $99.00 USD - VPIP: 47, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 9.0, Hands: 17
Seat 4: Player4 $138.50 USD - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 1.9, Hands: 619
Seat 5: Hero $100.00 USD - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3.3, Hands: 385508
Seat 6: Player6 $105.50 USD - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.7, Hands: 179
Player6 posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Player1 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [TcTh ]
Player2 folds
Player3 raises [$2.00 USD]
Player4 folds
Hero raises [$8.00 USD]
Player6 folds
Player1 raises [$44.75 USD]
Player3 folds
Hero ???

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Try2BePerfect   . Aug 11 2011 12:49. Posts 469

My image was a bit tighter than it is sown here, anyway probably Plr1 wasn't paying attention to that.

His 3b% is 6%, altough his AF is so low that I don't think he has any bluffs in his range, and maybe not even 3betting all hands like AK or 99.

We need 40% eq to break even. Call or fold?

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 11 2011 13:37. Posts 15163

af stat doesn't take preflop into account at all fyi. I call

93% Sure!  

johnmagi   Norway. Aug 11 2011 14:10. Posts 1424

SNAAAAAAAAP

You will see AK and small PP alot, but also some higher PP some of the time


Try2BePerfect   . Aug 11 2011 15:09. Posts 469

Does the fact that he almost snap shoved, infuence your decision?

[ I've seen twice one player (not this one), who cold 4bet super fast pushed (40bb regular) with KK and AA (both times OOP) ]

What's the minimum stength of the hand you would call with ?

 Last edit: 11/08/2011 15:09

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Aug 11 2011 15:16. Posts 8649


  On August 11 2011 14:09 Try2BePerfect wrote:

What's the minimum stength of the hand you would call with ?



prolly 99/AQ, would consider 88

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YoMeR   United States. Aug 11 2011 15:38. Posts 12438

trivial snap. only fold if villain is a known nit

eZ Life. 

Try2BePerfect   . Aug 11 2011 15:54. Posts 469

Thanks for advice, I clearly made a mistake here and folded.

But still, dou you think that snap shoves thights or looses ( thinner/wider) range of his 4bets?

If you consider that he might be tilitng, then snap push -> random hands in range = widens.
If you think he is not tilting -> snap shove = super easy decision = premium hands = tighter range.

Would you agree on that?

Do you call or push vs his min/very small cold 4bet, and pfr fold?


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 11 2011 16:29. Posts 15163

the thing is these midstack gaylords min4bet gay amounts with AA KK (QQ) a lot instead of shoving...and that's good against a lot of people that will give less action against a shove than a min4bet.

If you discount those say 30-50% you got an easy call, and the ship when you don't really know him will always have some retard spazz combos imo

93% Sure! Last edit: 11/08/2011 16:30

Try2BePerfect   . Aug 11 2011 16:34. Posts 469


  On August 11 2011 15:29 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
the thing is these midstack gaylords min4bet gay amounts with AA KK (QQ) a lot instead of shoving...and that's good against a lot of people that will give less action against a shove than a min4bet.

If you discount those say 30-50% you got an easy call, and the ship when you don't really know him will always have some retard spazz combos imo



Sadly, have to agree

(sadly, because it again explains why fold is so bad)


waga   United Kingdom. Aug 11 2011 17:28. Posts 2375

I always call because , well ... fuck him 7
(and because it's +EV but mostly because fuck him)

 Last edit: 11/08/2011 17:29

 

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