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Handnr: 915563
Submitted by : Try2BePerfect
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, August 11, 12:11:21 ET 2011
Table Oriola VII Real Money
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $45.75 USD - VPIP: 38, PFR: 21, 3B: 6, AF: 1.2, Hands: 201
Seat 2: Player2 $100.00 USD - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 8, AF: 2.0, Hands: 91
Seat 3: Player3 $99.00 USD - VPIP: 47, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 9.0, Hands: 17
Seat 4: Player4 $138.50 USD - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 1.9, Hands: 619
Seat 5: Hero $100.00 USD - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3.3, Hands: 385508
Seat 6: Player6 $105.50 USD - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.7, Hands: 179
Player6 posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Player1 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
Holecards
Dealt to Hero [  ]
Player2 folds
Player3 raises [$2.00 USD]
Player4 folds
Hero raises [$8.00 USD]
Player6 folds
Player1 raises [$44.75 USD]
Player3 folds
Hero ???
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My image was a bit tighter than it is sown here, anyway probably Plr1 wasn't paying attention to that.
His 3b% is 6%, altough his AF is so low that I don't think he has any bluffs in his range, and maybe not even 3betting all hands like AK or 99.
We need 40% eq to break even. Call or fold? |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Aug 11 2011 13:37. Posts 15163 | | |
af stat doesn't take preflop into account at all fyi. I call |
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johnmagi Norway. Aug 11 2011 14:10. Posts 1424 | | |
SNAAAAAAAAP
You will see AK and small PP alot, but also some higher PP some of the time |
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Does the fact that he almost snap shoved, infuence your decision?
[ I've seen twice one player (not this one), who cold 4bet super fast pushed (40bb regular) with KK and AA (both times OOP) ]
What's the minimum stength of the hand you would call with ? |
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. Aug 11 2011 15:16. Posts 8649 | | |
| | On August 11 2011 14:09 Try2BePerfect wrote:
What's the minimum stength of the hand you would call with ? |
prolly 99/AQ, would consider 88 |
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YoMeR United States. Aug 11 2011 15:38. Posts 12438 | | |
trivial snap. only fold if villain is a known nit |
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Thanks for advice, I clearly made a mistake here and folded.
But still, dou you think that snap shoves thights or looses ( thinner/wider) range of his 4bets?
If you consider that he might be tilitng, then snap push -> random hands in range = widens.
If you think he is not tilting -> snap shove = super easy decision = premium hands = tighter range.
Would you agree on that?
Do you call or push vs his min/very small cold 4bet, and pfr fold? |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Aug 11 2011 16:29. Posts 15163 | | |
the thing is these midstack gaylords min4bet gay amounts with AA KK (QQ) a lot instead of shoving...and that's good against a lot of people that will give less action against a shove than a min4bet.
If you discount those say 30-50% you got an easy call, and the ship when you don't really know him will always have some retard spazz combos imo |
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| 93% Sure! | Last edit: 11/08/2011 16:30 |
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| | On August 11 2011 15:29 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
the thing is these midstack gaylords min4bet gay amounts with AA KK (QQ) a lot instead of shoving...and that's good against a lot of people that will give less action against a shove than a min4bet.
If you discount those say 30-50% you got an easy call, and the ship when you don't really know him will always have some retard spazz combos imo |
Sadly, have to agree 
(sadly, because it again explains why fold is so bad) |
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waga United Kingdom. Aug 11 2011 17:28. Posts 2375 | | |
I always call because , well ... fuck him  7
(and because it's +EV but mostly because fuck him) |
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| | Last edit: 11/08/2011 17:29 |
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