you snap a shove right?

On August 12 2011 03:26 LemOn[5thF] wrote: you snap a shove right?

uhm no?

so you 4bet fold 33 oO
I guess if he 4bets wide but has a tight shoving range with no spews... still seems weird 0 blockers we flop terrible 9/10 times when called, and you fold 32-38% equity when you fold to a shove

Ok not my hand so i guess Trolala have to answer that.

I usually don't 4bet 33 at all, but If I do I fold to a shove everytime. Just assume he shoves 99+/AQs+ then it's a losing play. Sure add some more flipping hands and we we'll find odds to call, but it's still pretty awful.

yeah I did the calcs, with hero's sizing he has to fold as by calling he loses 1-10bb on average. But you can't really put TT 99 in people's ranges, they will seldom 3bet them in these positions, if the 4bet was a couple bucks bigger you'd have to call it off.

I agree that you can't call off a shove with 33 but I think it's a terrible hand to 4bet to begin with due to having no blockers whatsoever. There's plenty of better hands to use for 4bet bluffs like Ax.

On August 12 2011 07:24 SpasticInk wrote: Ok not my hand so i guess Trolala have to answer that. I usually don't 4bet 33 at all, but If I do I fold to a shove everytime. Just assume he shoves 99+/AQs+ then it's a losing play. Sure add some more flipping hands and we we'll find odds to call, but it's still pretty awful.

Opponent 3bets 7%, 9% on the CO. + I open like 25% in MP
I have polarized 4bet range, I think he's showing hands are likely to be QQ+/AK

cause of the antes you need to take it down 63% of the time
if he shoves 34 combos.
If he 3bet folds you more than 7%/90combos with that tight range you got a case for 4b fold