Eccentric_BG: calls $1

of course not I say re-raise flop

i just know he's gonna show up with a limped AK here but if he limps AK he's a fish and he can limp AA/KK/QQ/JJ for all i know

Board: JdThQc
Equity Win Tie
MP2 50.98% 47.92% 3.07% { Kc9h }
MP3 49.02% 45.95% 3.07% { TT, AKs, QJs, QJo, AdKc, AhKs, AhKc, AsKc, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs }

This is AK discounted by 50%, TT and QJ which is like the worst case scenario fish be stupid and it's still a flop shove, once you flat flop his TT and QJ have lower suckout equity and you have better odds and you must stack off and be excited about it in EV terms on the turn

obv depends on how fishy he is but a lot of fish overvalue even TP on this board and play it like the nuts
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your range for villian doesnt make sense at all.

at all.

he can definitely have 98. given the limp you just gotta get coolered unless you have a read

and I forgot about 89 lol ;p

On August 14 2011 12:58 gororokgororok wrote: your range for villian doesnt make sense at all. at all.

you don't think fish play TT QJ this way? oO

just fyi i dont think this guy is a fish

On August 14 2011 13:31 HaiVan wrote: just fyi i dont think this guy is a fish

Obv not, he just stacked goooooooorooo

On August 14 2011 13:07 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2011 12:58 gororokgororok wrote: your range for villian doesnt make sense at all. at all. you don't think fish play TT QJ this way? oO

you forget to include KK/AA or 98, lots of hands he can have thats why range isnt accurate.

not trying to berate you, I enjoy the effort really!!! <3

On August 14 2011 13:31 HaiVan wrote: just fyi i dont think this guy is a fish

fyi

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/Eccentric_BG

On August 14 2011 13:47 gororokgororok wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2011 13:31 HaiVan wrote: just fyi i dont think this guy is a fish fyi http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/Eccentric_BG

my bad then

he was high in the rankings of a local Poker Stars promotion here, so i assumed he was a reg

[ ] Sample
[x] Limp AK
[x] Size like a fish
[x] Fish

On August 14 2011 13:46 gororokgororok wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2011 13:07 LemOn[5thF] wrote:   On August 14 2011 12:58 gororokgororok wrote: your range for villian doesnt make sense at all. at all. you don't think fish play TT QJ this way? oO you forget to include KK/AA or 98, lots of hands he can have thats why range isnt accurate. not trying to berate you, I enjoy the effort really!!! <3

I assumed he'd raise JJ+ more often than not we are making the assumption when the hand happens not at this point. So basically I was trying to be as pessimistic as possible, if you think by his actions in the hand when he goes nuts indicate he will have AK say 50% time and he will have only 3combos of TT-QQ combined and QJ it's still a stack off, AND I forgot about 89 too so you should feel preety ok with stacking off.

I assume when he limps and you not saying anything that he is your standard 60VPIP low pfr drooler that will overvalue if not TPS then top2 for sure like always. The PTR shows him at just -1bb/100 or something so that might not be the case

oops sorry, yes with pessimistic range we still are 50/50 as you calculated, standard cooler then.

I dunno what's the worst hand we should go with though and play it this way what do you think goro?

well a hand like QJ or 98 i would play different, i think i would play it more passively. but i felt K9 is the 2nd nuts and i wanted to get the money in rly.

what about TT? do you just flat his raise otf or?

I would obviously raise TT preflop and the hand would have played out different. If he would have flatted my raise and this flop comes then I would get it in np.