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Handnr: 920446
Submitted by : longple

***** Hand History for Game 1619984190 ***** Boss
$5000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, September 17, 10:50:06 ET 2011
Table Julia 6 Real Money
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 2: O7O74O4353 $10152.52 USD
Seat 4: ~GoldFisH~ $8472.00 USD
Seat 5: longple1 $11384.39 USD
~GoldFisH~ posts small blind [$25.00 USD].
longple1 posts big blind [$50.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to longple1 [9s9c ]
O7O74O4353 raises [$100.00 USD]
~GoldFisH~ folds
longple1 raises [$275.00 USD]
O7O74O4353 raises [$700.00 USD]
longple1 calls [$475.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $1,475.00)

   Kc3h5h
longple1 checks
O7O74O4353 bets [$900.00 USD]
longple1 calls [$900.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $3,275.00)

   Kc3h5h3s
longple1 checks
O7O74O4353 bets [$1800.00 USD]
longple1 calls [$1800.00 USD]

River (Pot : $6,875.00)

   Kc3h5h3s4c
longple1 checks
O7O74O4353 bets [$6652.52 USD]
longple1 calls [$6652.52 USD]
O7O74O4353 shows QsJs
longple1 shows 9s9c
longple1 wins $20315.04 USD from main pot

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Highcard   Canada. Sep 17 2011 23:22. Posts 5428

his bet size is so bad as a bluff

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wobbly_au   Australia. Sep 18 2011 00:07. Posts 6540

why is it bad?

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Highcard   Canada. Sep 18 2011 00:20. Posts 5428

if his hand is for value, he should be betting smaller to get calls from weaker hands/Ahis, or he should be overbetting.

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Highcard   Canada. Sep 18 2011 00:25. Posts 5428

so then it comes down to frequencies and history with longple, idk how 07 value bets/bluffs but ...........oh ha that was allin, I thought he could bet like 8k on river. Yeah even more bluffy, for value I would expect a larger turn bet to get a more 3/4 ratio on river. anyways, it just depends on o7 frequencies however most often I would expect a larger turn bet to set up a smaller river shove ratio for value and smaller turn bets with larger river bets/ratio as a bluff

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DooMeR   United States. Sep 18 2011 01:42. Posts 8555

i agree with wobbly its totally fine and stnd. whether its optimal or not is another question which isnt relevent since we're not villain and we have to evaluate the hand for what it is not what it should be. people do this for value and a bluff unless u know otherwise and to read too much into this sizing is a mistake imo unless u figure out intricacies about the betsize. to look at it in a vacuum and make an assumption off of it vs a reg is a mistake in this case. only with history can this particular betsizing become some sort of tell vs someone competent.

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longple    Sweden. Sep 18 2011 02:14. Posts 4472

actually his sizing on the turn was why i decided to call down, i havent seen that sizing really from him and we have played a shit ton, he normally sizes bigger to get more money in and put more pressure on (he normally is more tilted also), he is a wild player and not balanced at all (good reg though, but turbospewy at times, he tilts very easily)

and this time i just got the feeling from him that he wanted maximum fold EQ for a riverbluff so thats why i was calling basically any river (+ this was new, and it felt like he just came up with the idea, idk it just felt like we didnt have history with these sizings before at 200bb (so he should have no reason to try and level me and expect me to read this situation like that,) and do this for value)

obv he might use same sizings on the turn on these exact boards for value aswell 100%, idk its hard to say but i often go by small reads/timingtells/and feel alot when i play, and usually it actually workes out cuz i feel that im pretty good at picking out these uniquespots just from gameflow and "by current dynamichistory"flows and be good at thinking how my opponent is thinking atm, and kinda pick the right decisions at a good rate in "leveling of thinking" spots

from a pure rangeperspective its an whole other story, sometimes i just decide to continue in spots where i usually would not without special objectives, and here against him i mean he is gonna barrel so much so its basically fold turn or call turn+riv against him, he is pulling the last trigger with a wide range, and can valuebet very light here, like QQ light almost


 

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