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Handnr: 921954
Submitted by : EvilSky

PokerStars Game #68329840312: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2011/10/01 13:54:33 ET
Table Mezzarco VII 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: frase1977 ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($196 in chips)
Seat 4: m000nshiner ($480.20 in chips)
Seat 5: sunnnset ($80 in chips)
Seat 6: Reflexbakker ($208.35 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $1
m000nshiner: posts big blind $2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero KcJs
sunnnset: folds
Reflexbakker: folds
frase1977: raises $4 to $6
Hero: raises $14 to $20
m000nshiner: folds
frase1977: calls $14

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $42.00)

   Jh3d9c
Hero: bets $26
frase1977: calls $26

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $94.00)

   Jh3d9cTs
Hero: checks
frase1977: bets $59.80
Hero: calls $59.80

River (Pot : $213.60)

   Jh3d9cTs5h
Hero: checks
frase1977: bets $94.20 and is all-in
Hero: calls $90.20 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($4) returned to frase1977

Showdown
frase1977: shows Jc8c (a pair of Jacks)
Hero: shows KcJs (a pair of Jacks - King kicker)
Hero collected $392 from pot

Summary
Total pot $394 | Rake $2
Board  Jh3d9cTs5h
Seat 2: frase1977 (button) showed Jc8c and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 3: Hero (small blind) showed KcJs and won ($392) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 4: m000nshiner (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: sunnnset folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Reflexbakker folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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EvilSky    Czech Republic. Oct 01 2011 14:05. Posts 8918

I dont like my play because I had no idea he would do this but now that its done can any1 explain why the fuck would he snap bet turn and river here?

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SIG1   United States. Oct 01 2011 14:26. Posts 651

he put u on ak


SleepyHead   . Oct 01 2011 14:56. Posts 879

I'm sure his river bet was a bluff

Or he thought he had a straight

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

Oskar_123   Sweden. Oct 01 2011 15:01. Posts 401

he probably bet turn because he has top pair and lol it's a 3bet pot, then when you check/call he doesnt expect you to ever have anything good.


Maynard!   United States. Oct 01 2011 15:07. Posts 4453


  On October 01 2011 13:26 Seobombisgay wrote:
he put u on ak



This imo

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Oct 01 2011 15:33. Posts 5329

its a really bad play with no good reason behind it, obviously. If you're gona step down to 1/2 you gotta expect this now and again hehe.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings 

EvilSky    Czech Republic. Oct 01 2011 16:45. Posts 8918

I always like to give the benefit of the doubt, of course it can always be some button clicking but still I try to understand the reasoning behind it if its there, even if its bad ^^


lebowski   Greece. Oct 01 2011 17:04. Posts 9205

hmm his sizing is very bad for what he tried to do,even if there's no hand that you beat on the river

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

TalentedTom    Canada. Oct 01 2011 17:07. Posts 20070

his play is preety standard postflop, except for the preflop call, i'd also bet the turn almost alwyas with his hand ;-0

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the sameLast edit: 01/10/2011 17:09

lebowski   Greece. Oct 01 2011 17:11. Posts 9205

lol. It's possible that he thought he was valuetowning you,because,after all , why would you ever c/c turn with tp or better? arrr innnnn
I'd ask him if it was a bluff and probably assume the opposite of his answer

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 01/10/2011 17:13

n0rthf4ce    United States. Oct 01 2011 17:28. Posts 8119

prob thinks u guys have enough history for him to make a semi-thin value play?

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Oct 01 2011 17:39. Posts 5329

surely this can't be value on the river?, calling 3bet from cutoff = very strong range here. This has to be a bluff, would be alot better as a bluff with better bet sizing, need more to shove on the river for people to fold stuff.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings 

Joe   Czech Republic. Oct 01 2011 17:42. Posts 5987

Wtf his turn bet is a good valuebet, river is probably somewhat bad without history but it creates a decent history to begin with.

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

Twisted    Netherlands. Oct 01 2011 17:49. Posts 10422

Betting turn and checking behind river would be standard to me. If you're a retarded calling station he could be shoving hoping for a call from TX or something, but mostly checking behind river would be fine I guess.

Turn valuebet is totally standard. Preflop is probably a fold though.


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Oct 01 2011 18:27. Posts 8918

I dont know guys, its pretty questionable value when he isnt beating any Jx, my c/c range is stronger than J8 but lets say he also gets added value from folding out AK and potentially getting it in vs AQ but on the river thats gone too. And why is he snap doing it too -.-


TalentedTom    Canada. Oct 01 2011 19:42. Posts 20070

its extrreley unlikley that 2 people flop the same top pair in a 3b pot ;-0 the odds against are 7.5 : 1, im more then happy to take my chances on teh turn (aassuming i flat pre with J8s)

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

handbanana21   United States. Oct 01 2011 20:40. Posts 3037

i dont think this is thin at all. If u 3bet q9 q10 k9 k10, a10, 98, a9. Your considering herocalling here.


 

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