PokerStars Game #69767282324: Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2011/10/30 19:25:39 WET [2011/10/30 15:25:39 ET]
Table Lucidor II 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ccmoz ($50 in chips)
Seat 2: cse-2004 ($51.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Kings Keeper ($20 in chips)
Seat 4: Natasza1991 ($50.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Lhamarion ($57.55 in chips)
cse-2004: posts small blind $0.25
Kings Keeper: posts big blind $0.50
wrzosek: sits out
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to ccmoz
Natasza1991: folds
Lhamarion: raises $1 to $1.50
ccmoz: raises $3 to $4.50
cse-2004: folds
Kings Keeper: folds
Lhamarion: calls $3
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $9.75)
Lhamarion: checks
ccmoz: bets $6.50
Lhamarion: calls $6.50
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $22.75)
Lhamarion: checks
ccmoz: bets $16.25
Lhamarion: raises $30.30 to $46.55 and is all-in
ccmoz: calls $22.75 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($7.55) returned to Lhamarion
River (Pot : $100.75)
Showdown
Lhamarion: shows (a pair of Kings)
ccmoz: shows (a pair of Sixes)
Lhamarion collected $98.75 from pot
Summary
Total pot $100.75 | Rake $2
Board
Seat 1: ccmoz (button) showed and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 2: cse-2004 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Kings Keeper (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Natasza1991 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Lhamarion showed and won ($98.75) with a pair of Kings
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CCMoz   United Kingdom. Oct 30 2011 15:32. Posts 925 | | |
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KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Oct 30 2011 15:46. Posts 1687 | | |
check back the turn, flop is pretty dry imo |
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poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets | |
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KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Oct 30 2011 15:48. Posts 1687 | | |
And you just picked up a shit ton of equity with awkward stack sizes |
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poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets | |
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CCMoz   United Kingdom. Oct 30 2011 15:49. Posts 925 | | |
anyone to discuss 3 bet pots? |
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CCMoz   United Kingdom. Oct 30 2011 15:50. Posts 925 | | |
i thought it was good to fire Kxx dry flops with a cbet and again when you pick up equity on turn for double barrell? or am i mistaken? would really like to discuss this kind of thing... |
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KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Oct 30 2011 15:53. Posts 1687 | | |
Well what hands is he likely to be holding?
89 54(got there) and KQ KJ KT and sets if he didnt raise them on the flop and the stacks mean you're putting twice pot in on the turn when he shoves which we assume he's doing with KQ KJ KT, in comparison to the amount of times that you hit your river and win a decent size pot anyway (you have like 1/3 to hit this river right and pretty much make the best hand, flush is disguised here also as its 3bet pot) - your hand is much more disguised on the river and you're getting shoved on alot this turn right? |
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poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets | Last edit: 30/10/2011 15:56 |
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CCMoz   United Kingdom. Oct 30 2011 16:03. Posts 925 | | |
Yeah that makes sense mate. So would you be more likely to fire turn if equity didnt improve because flop is so dry and he can't really be calling with much less than the above? maybe pairs 88-JJ?
Im experimenting with 3 bet pots but find so much contrasting info and do's donts and everything i do seems to backfire lol adding to the confusion |
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Zep   United States. Oct 30 2011 16:09. Posts 2292 | | |
Check back on turn. You have such sick good underrepped equity. Bet/Call isn't bad by any means however |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Oct 30 2011 16:13. Posts 20070 | | |
i think 3-betting a premium hand like 65s on the button is typically preety bad |
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CCMoz   United Kingdom. Oct 30 2011 16:24. Posts 925 | | |
please could you explain tom? |
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KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Oct 30 2011 16:26. Posts 1687 | | |
i cant tell you for certain about the turn, I'd like to hear other opinions but I wouldnt fire unimproved.
I half agree with talentedtom too, opponent dependant |
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Gsr_01_integ   United States. Oct 30 2011 16:28. Posts 826 | | |
still to mtts...seems like u play all your hands like your in mtt mode |
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sunnysky7   . Oct 30 2011 16:32. Posts 1549 | | |
that means you can flat pf and play in postiion with 65s smaller pot , but you dont want to get 4bet and fold
i think its fine to 3bet if you both deeper or try to create some dynamics but myself fold 65s in this spot against most reg and 3bet some call some , player dependent |
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KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Oct 30 2011 16:56. Posts 1687 | | |
I do agree this is in no way an auto raise but i dont think its bad. |
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Syntax   United States. Oct 30 2011 17:17. Posts 4415 | | |
i prefer 3betting if any of the blinds are aggro. Also, i don't really mind getting 4b off 6 high imo |
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TilICollapse   United States. Oct 30 2011 17:58. Posts 218 | | |
Looks OK except for your sizing, you're gonna have like 1/3 PSB on the river. Either bet bigger on flop and jam turn or bet smaller 3 streets. I would definitely not check back turn, he shouldn't have very many Kings in his range and you can get a lot of better hands to fold.
As for calling vs 3 betting pre, I think 3 betting is alright as long as villain is calling a lot of 3 bets OOP, otherwise I would always flat. |
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patti   United States. Oct 30 2011 18:42. Posts 550 | | |
i don't mind barreling turn to get 88- QQ to fold
i prob give up on river
i play the same way in single raised pot, except maybe SOMETIMES tripple barrel |
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