he snaped every street so i put him on FD, so he is not calling any river but might bluff some so i c/s, is that ok?

oh god no...

snapping doesnt always mean a FD, but besides that the huge flaw in your logic here is that if you check to induce a bluff you should c/c and not c/s. Id honestly just rather bbb for max value tho as an alternative line to bb bluffcatch.

On November 04 2011 13:42 EvilSky wrote: snapping doesnt always mean a FD, but besides that the huge flaw in your logic here is that if you check to induce a bluff you should c/c and not c/s. Id honestly just rather bbb for max value tho as an alternative line to bb bluffcatch.

ohh i c, ty ty

sorry, ill be more helpful... what are you trying to extract value out of here with this raise? if u think he's bluffing then for god's sake check/call...your hand has really good showdown value... hes never calling a check/raise on the river with anything that u beat. naked kings fold. lesser 2p is extremely unlikely.... think of it like this... if u raise riv and he calls, you lose every time here. if u raise river and he folds, then there is no upside to raising the river, so just check/call.

On November 04 2011 13:45 strydah wrote: sorry, ill be more helpful... what are you trying to extract value out of here with this raise? if u think he's bluffing then for god's sake check/call...your hand has really good showdown value... hes never calling a check/raise on the river with anything that u beat. naked kings fold. lesser 2p is extremely unlikely.... think of it like this... if u raise riv and he calls, you lose every time here. if u raise river and he folds, then there is no upside to raising the river, so just check/call.

TY TY

On November 04 2011 13:42 EvilSky wrote: snapping doesnt always mean a FD, but besides that the huge flaw in your logic here is that if you check to induce a bluff you should c/c and not c/s. Id honestly just rather bbb for max value tho as an alternative line to bb bluffcatch.

Except that he could also be easily betting worse, which he won't fold. If you're checking river, I think this has to be a c/shove...

On November 04 2011 14:46 TilICollapse wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2011 13:42 EvilSky wrote: snapping doesnt always mean a FD, but besides that the huge flaw in your logic here is that if you check to induce a bluff you should c/c and not c/s. Id honestly just rather bbb for max value tho as an alternative line to bb bluffcatch. Except that he could also be easily betting worse, which he won't fold. If you're checking river, I think this has to be a c/shove...

Well this is the micros so...

If you know villain is huge donk who calls anything he bets its fine to shove.

But c/c is better here against decent micro villains. Only will call you if you're beat

Do you guys realize the raisesize/potsize ratio? i doubt anyone is folding any pair here.
Generally i do agree though that you should flatcall if youre bluffcatching (with more money behind)

Its not just doing a play that may happen to be good or bad, you need to have the correct reasoning behind it, if you dont then its always bad.

there is just 2 few moneyz behind that i do not understand c/c

in a vacuum bet/bet/shove is definitely more +ev vs fish.

if you can put his range more towards draws then i like this more but you'll have to be sure he's aggressive enough to be betting busted draws etc.