boat 90%

bad fold imo

bet foldm yes

On November 14 2011 12:07 tutz wrote: boat 90%

disagree

i do not believe my eyes

villain told me later he had J8
what hands u think villain is limping preflop, raising my flop bet, calling the turn a potting river?

AQ and AJ would raise preflop
QJ dont raise flop
there's no flush draw on the flop, the only draw on the flop is the hand that I have
for me this is A8 or J8 always

he plays 45/7 = passive fish

he plays 45/7 = passive fish - the more reason lol

On November 14 2011 13:17 Eluflop wrote: he plays 45/7 = passive fish - the more reason lol

Ok but what hand do you put him on?

srsly man, the fish has shown up here with literally everything.
The point is that your hand is too strong to ch fold in this spot, you at the very least have to call imo ... some times he has it too, but i would not fold a hand strong as this to the fish

uhhh, any ace, any 8, kj, kq, qj, a ton of stupid shit. Without some serious reads I'm never folding this. 45/7 doesn't tell us shit about his post flop play. Your line makes 0 sense too so if he is aggressive postflop ever I'd expect to see a ton of stupid bluffs, weak made hands here.

ur turn raise is too small man, ur missing tons of value with that raise

river does suck, dunno not rly going to give an opinion on river play beyond it seems like you need to call with these odds

probably better to bet/fold

On November 14 2011 13:17 Eluflop wrote: he plays 45/7 = passive fish - the more reason lol

no... passive means he is not aggro...

people that are generally not aggro don't show strength without actually being strong...

Thus - him being passive means it's more reason for us to fold...

However, regarding the hand - I'm not really sure...

Sure - his line might sound similar to what you explained, but seeing how loose/passive he is pre might suggest that he's limping AJ? or just any random 8...

With a random 8 he might have a flushdraw on turn, hitting a 3rd eight on river...
Just speculation - not sure how often he has those types of hands...

I think you should definately bet river...

bet/fold , no other option against passive fish , just get value from him and fold to his aggrasion
b/f > c/f > c/c

good fold imo, at these limits river bluffs are nuts almost allways, he is a fish so i don´t think he will vbet w AQ/AJ thinking u call w AK.

ye river bluffs are nuts almost always

On November 14 2011 14:38 xicotaSLB wrote: good fold imo, at these limits river bluffs are nuts almost allways

lol bluffs can't be the nuts man

fuck night2o1

On November 14 2011 14:17 Night2o1 wrote: ur turn raise is too small man, ur missing tons of value with that raise

i smell a troll

even if they are bluffing, they are doing it with them nuts!

Where is TT to shut these idiots up

?

I wasn't trolling but if I'm wrong there I must be a wayyyyyyyyy worse poker player than I ever imagined

the fold is fine but the river check suck
-.-

ye that I don't mind the fold to that size but daum why check when he perfectly reps a fishy played Ace and he's a fish? OO

bet/fold is best.

check/call is probably slightly better than check fold. id imagine they are close in equity though

YOU REALIZED HE HAS AQ/AJ A LOT HERE

even if we give him 100% combos of AA/JJ (not QQ because he reraised the flop) its still a very easy river value bet

Yep. Go valuetown boy. If he shoves over your bet you can fold.

What Daut said.

I mean - now you make him check a lot of hands that would have called a river bet. It's pretty bad if you think about it. Sure there are hands that beat you, but they are always valuebetting river (and maybe not that many hands that you beat).

Makes it so much easier to play.

I dont see how villain could have AJ/AQ here tom... its a limped pot, but ok, bet/fold is probably best

if he limps at all, it means he is a fish, and thus his limping range can be anything

some fish limp AK/A4s, some 62o, some only AA, he can have anythiing pf