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Submitted by : Joe

PokerStars Hand #73995225634: Holdem No Limit ($3/$6 USD) - 2012/01/17 13:03:55 CET [2012/01/17 7:03:55 ET]
Table Idomeneus III 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Joeik ($628 in chips)
Seat 2: Zyrak ($835.60 in chips)
Seat 3: yuginZu ($265.35 in chips)
Seat 4: ERA7ER ($671.50 in chips)
Seat 5: typemike1 ($649.55 in chips)
Seat 6: EYESONLY5150 ($1249.50 in chips)
typemike1: posts small blind $3
EYESONLY5150: posts big blind $6

Holecards
Dealt to Joeik JsAs
Joeik: raises $9 to $15
Zyrak: folds
yuginZu: folds
ERA7ER: folds
typemike1: raises $39 to $54
EYESONLY5150: folds
Joeik: calls $39

Flop (Pot : $114.00)

   6s8s4d
typemike1: bets $66
Joeik: raises $93 to $159
typemike1: calls $93

Turn (Pot : $432.00)

   6s8s4dJc
typemike1: checks
Joeik: ?

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Joe   Czech Republic. Jan 17 2012 07:09. Posts 5987

Follow up situation:

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there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

Twisted    Netherlands. Jan 17 2012 07:19. Posts 10422

???

shove??


Oly   United Kingdom. Jan 17 2012 07:20. Posts 3585


  On January 17 2012 06:19 Twisted wrote:
???

shove turn??



I'm guessing...

Researchers used brain scans to show that when straight men looked at pictures of women in bikinis, areas of the brain that normally light up in anticipation of using tools, like spanners and screwdrivers, were activated. 

TimDawg    United States. Jan 17 2012 07:21. Posts 10197

Wtf are you doing checking turn

That's a damn sin

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jan 17 2012 07:22. Posts 5329

i would prob 4bet or fold pre. As played i fold here.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jan 17 2012 07:32. Posts 5329

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 17/01/2012 07:46

Zanjong   Afghanistan. Jan 17 2012 07:45. Posts 3076

Joe give us some more info, otherwise impossible to give a good advice. How wide is he 3betting? Polarized range or TT AQ+stuff? In a sense QQ-AA doesnt make too much sense when he flat calls flop, so maybe we can believe he has something that is in the 4B bluff preflop range, like 98s 87s 67s. Hard to say though. But first give us your view of his 3B range preflop, and what hands he could show up with.


Zanjong   Afghanistan. Jan 17 2012 07:47. Posts 3076

I dont think he has flushdraw fwiw.. not alot of combos, and all those shove flop.


Oly   United Kingdom. Jan 17 2012 07:47. Posts 3585

edit: deleted my reply to stroggoz' deleted comment. Seems fair.

Researchers used brain scans to show that when straight men looked at pictures of women in bikinis, areas of the brain that normally light up in anticipation of using tools, like spanners and screwdrivers, were activated.Last edit: 17/01/2012 07:48

Zanjong   Afghanistan. Jan 17 2012 07:48. Posts 3076

Why did you edit post stroggoz? I thought it presented a fair point, if he has a really tight 3b range and is a bit passive he might choose to play his QQ-AA like that and get it in on blank turn.


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jan 17 2012 07:48. Posts 5329

hmm, i kinda went fully retarded there. i failed on the maths once again haha

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 17/01/2012 07:52

Joe   Czech Republic. Jan 17 2012 08:23. Posts 5987

I havent played a lot with him, but from what I have seen his range should be standardly polarized. I dont think he 3bets TT or AQ here.

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

handbanana21   United States. Jan 17 2012 09:06. Posts 3037

If you cant shove the turn for value, this is an obv pre fold.


Twisted    Netherlands. Jan 17 2012 09:35. Posts 10422


  On January 17 2012 08:06 handbanana21 wrote:
If you cant shove the turn for value, this is an obv pre fold.



and if you can't shove this turn for value, don't raise the flop


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Jan 17 2012 11:29. Posts 10896

i like the trap on the turn


Maynard!   United States. Jan 17 2012 11:31. Posts 4453

Seems like shoving or not on turn is a breakeven deciscion. The only difference is that shoving is easier mentally and youll almost never tilt even if youre behind. If you play it like you did and he turns up with aces youll tilt.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

MysticJoey   Poland. Jan 17 2012 14:12. Posts 1430


  On January 17 2012 10:31 Maynard! wrote:
Seems like shoving or not on turn is a breakeven deciscion. The only difference is that shoving is easier mentally and youll almost never tilt even if youre behind. If you play it like you did and he turns up with 56 youll tilt.



fixed


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jan 17 2012 14:14. Posts 8918

seems like a pretty standard jam, imo you got a bit too fancy with the check and went from a super easy spot to a tough one.


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jan 17 2012 17:42. Posts 8918

yeah actually flop is a call, especially if you arent fistpump shipping this turn.


AndrewSong    United States. Jan 19 2012 03:23. Posts 2355

call flop


 

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