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Handnr: 935458
Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Hand #74160349859: Holdem No Limit ($2/$4 USD) - 2012/01/20 5:32:31 ET
Table Phthia III 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Stroggos_nz ($416.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Roma_Demiden ($400 in chips)
Seat 3: kurtjam ($432.45 in chips)
Seat 4: ERA7ER ($456.20 in chips)
Seat 5: lev67 ($233 in chips)
Seat 6: rukavitsyn ($400 in chips)
lev67: posts small blind $2
rukavitsyn: posts big blind $4

Holecards
Dealt to Stroggos_nz KdKc
Stroggos_nz: raises $8 to $12
Roma_Demiden: folds
kurtjam: folds
ERA7ER: calls $12
lev67: calls $10
rukavitsyn: folds

Flop (Pot : $40.00)

   3hTdQh
lev67: checks
Stroggos_nz: bets $30
ERA7ER: calls $30
lev67: folds

Turn (Pot : $100.00)

   3hTdQh5d
Stroggos_nz: bets $72
ERA7ER: calls $72

River (Pot : $244.00)

   3hTdQh5dJc
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TimDawg    United States. Jan 20 2012 06:04. Posts 10197

i'd b/f like $168

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Oly   United Kingdom. Jan 20 2012 06:08. Posts 3585

Yeah I agree. The value bet is made much easier here by the vast amount of draws you could be barreling on the turn and have missed.

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Trolala   Estonia. Jan 20 2012 06:13. Posts 2050

What if

1) Same cards, but flop is rainbow, turn brings draw.
2) Same cards, but flop is rainbow and turn brings 4th suit.


n0rthf4ce    United States. Jan 20 2012 06:42. Posts 8119

vs reg i c/c, vs fish i b/f

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Oly   United Kingdom. Jan 20 2012 07:01. Posts 3585

northface - what do you think of a value bet? And how close is it with a c/c? Really interested thanks...

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jan 20 2012 07:07. Posts 5329

nvm.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 20/01/2012 07:19

ThuNDeR   Bulgaria. Jan 20 2012 07:49. Posts 371


  On January 20 2012 05:42 n0rthf4ce wrote:
vs reg i c/c, vs fish i b/f



Hmm I'd normally go the the other way around with these lines.Can you elaborate a little bit more why c/c vs reg is good ?

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jan 20 2012 07:55. Posts 5329

c/c is for balance, and because betting here is a little tricky to get value from much worse, it's not a spot where a reg would 3barrel bluff often so villian's can hero fold a Q here sometimes.

betting here is very easy vs a fish because fish have wide ranges, and they call here because draws missed and no scare cards.

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ThuNDeR   Bulgaria. Jan 20 2012 09:20. Posts 371

what hands worse than our do you expect a competent reg to bet on the river if we check ?
also I disagree that this is bad spot to 3 barrel,since our perceived range is full of big pairs/broadway cards which hit this board pretty hard so I'd rep KK+/2pair/set/str8 with my missed flushdraws/KJ/J9

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n0rthf4ce    United States. Jan 20 2012 09:20. Posts 8119


  On January 20 2012 06:55 Stroggoz wrote:
c/c is for balance, and because betting here is a little tricky to get value from much worse, it's not a spot where a reg would 3barrel bluff often so villian's can hero fold a Q here sometimes.

betting here is very easy vs a fish because fish have wide ranges, and they call here because draws missed and no scare cards.


thats pretty much it :o. also i think its important to have a hand this strong in this specific spot so you are not getting owned hard once you check the river by good smart villains. another method to go about it is to incorporate a c/r range on the river but that is a much higher variance approach and i feel not very plausible when you are multitabling.

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n0rthf4ce    United States. Jan 20 2012 09:23. Posts 8119


  On January 20 2012 08:20 ThuNDeR wrote:
what hands worse than our do you expect a competent reg to bet on the river if we check ?
also I disagree that this is bad spot to 3 barrel,since our perceived range is full of big pairs/broadway cards which hit this board pretty hard so I'd rep KK+/2pair/set/str8 with my missed flushdraws/KJ/J9


a good reg is going to have KK+ a lot more here and not going to hero you down with worse a lot of the time. a lot more value in a check than in a vbet imo.

edit: retarded general statement that doesnt apply to this riv --;

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terrybunny19240   United States. Jan 20 2012 10:02. Posts 13829

nice, i learned


mnj   United States. Jan 20 2012 22:54. Posts 3848


  On January 20 2012 09:02 Night2o1 wrote:
nice, i learned


 

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