what's going on here

bluffament

notice 4 handed flop, even tho i cant rep may sets i dont expect him to expect me to turn 99 for example into a bluff here ever

and this is something i hardly do against any1 like this, but after him tankfolding riv i guess my instinct where right

you are my hero, if its ok

I think you have the best hand

unlikely that u'll have 3x or 2x

makes sense, pretty crazy that you know he can fold an overpair here

On January 29 2012 08:08 Trolala wrote: I think you have the best hand unlikely that u'll have 3x or 2x

he never checkcall turn with worse lol, prolly not even cbet bluffing much at all into 4ppl either, im repping sets -_-

but its just so rare for any1 to bluff in this spot after the small CBet and then him ch/calling turn that size and then me jamming with those odds on THAT river where i really almopst cant rep anything anymore

(+ im folding to 3bets like 70% so i cant have that many hands here, but with the preflop action and fish calling im likely to have all the pockets)

a really good player prolly folds TT-AA here in some situations (far from every1 would against me, but im up 16k$ on him HU on 3/6 and he dosnt wanna play more, and we have had some sick hands i dont think in particular fishhater thinks im spewy or bad as alot of regs do, i would against most never make a play like this

its all these small factors together, positions, situation, history, dynamic between all we 4 players together in an unique situation, reads and sizeings and timeings, i get these ideas sometimes and its hard to explain, but its small things like that added up together in an unique situation that made me based on feel mostly for what i think he thinks i think ;D

and also me havenig an 8 makes it less likely for him to have a squeezing 8xs (rare anyhow but miiiiight happen) and i think that could be a factor makeing him call feeling there are just to many signs on blockers all over the place for me to have 3 combos and only 3 combos of hands that he just cant fold with the potodds

(i would expect him to view 8x as pretty much the same as AA in this spot when takeing potcontrol/bluffcatching/protcetion line like this)

Sick hand

its nice to read thought process of such a good player, thanks

he will never in a million years fold a better hand than yours imo, he was tanking either with Ax or a smaller pair, its a good value bet vs him though

yeah I really dont think he had anything ^^

trolling hard. nice vb

On January 29 2012 10:19 locoo wrote: he will never in a million years fold a better hand than yours imo, he was tanking either with Ax or a smaller pair, its a good value bet vs him though

yeah... who the hell folds overpairs vs lags on this board lol

esp a lag from sweden

hmm, standard non thinking reg comments imo like saying " i dont fold flushes 100bb " in some situations 2nd nut fullhouse is a fold for 40bb against the right player

to me this was a bluff and i think he folded an OP, he dosnt take a random line vs me like this calling turn to fold river if he was planning on bluffcatching with AK for example

never vs me, then he woulda snapped river if that was his plan, i dont think he calls turn without a pair atleast thinking i might protect bet against AK with 87s for example to check river

not sure if u guys are trolling

who plays overpairs like that? why would he let you play perfectly?

I'm a donk but to me it seems very hard for villain to get to the river with worse than 8x considering that it was 4handed on the flop. And even though longple's river value range is like 5 combos I'd expect him to have 0 combos of air. Pretty sure villain folded a better hand...

On January 29 2012 15:54 EvilSky wrote: who plays overpairs like that? why would he let you play perfectly?

he lets me play perfectly if he bets 3 streets here, by takeing checklines he induces shit etc, if he CBet into 4 ppl here and then bet/jamm 100% after he CB then i have a very easy turnfold or riverfold 100% without KK+ myself, thats when i can play perfeclty, if i know i can just call down and fold everything worse since he dosnt have enough bluffs

by takeing a checkline on the turn with various hands it makes me kinda lost, since i dont know what he is checkcalling with since the standard is to bet 3 streets