this guy is a big winner 1/2 2/4 , i have a read that he flats QQ MP v UTG pfr , so what could he be doing this with ? and whats my best play vs him ?

he is agressive , knows cards to barrel, he 3bets utg pfr 7% over 4k hands...could he be doing this with a 97s hand ? im pretty confused ? some help would be appretiated

I think his line looks like he has turned two pair/set with 68s, 98s, 88.
It's a really strange line to take as a bluff and I don't think he'll turn pair + straight draw into a bluff.

hmm, I don't know. Will be interesting to see what others say.

is his raise $53 total or $53 more to call?

looks like 8s or 3s

53 total, pretty much min raises

53 total, pretty much min raises, i dont think he will 3b 88 ever here

no f clue, seems like a dirty spot vs a good aggro player. i can't really see folding, reraising seems like spew vs him, if you call he's probably going to own you on some (maybe even a lot of) rivers since your range is more static than his but i don't see what else you can do :S

also curious what others think about this tho

check turn

I like to donk/3bet this flop with a range that certainly includes QQ - it saves a lot of arseache later and is super annoying to play against.

maybe some more opinions per haps ?

Can it be 33 or 66 then? I don't understand his raise unless he has a set he checked on flop.

On February 02 2012 13:50 barbieman wrote: I think his line looks like he has turned two pair/set with 68s, 98s, 88. It's a really strange line to take as a bluff and I don't think he'll turn pair + straight draw into a bluff.

this

Axs bets flop, big pairs bet flop, sets bet flop

I would prefer 4bet, u are vs 7% and big winner

if i have no idea of his range like you do i hcekc call turn check call river and take note ~~

^ i like this the best.

without any clue as to what his likely range is here with this line just check/call 3 streets might be good...just really sucks being OOP ;(

tho i like 4 bet get it in pre more
;oP

my guess is he is doing this with something worse than QQ and planning to check back river a lot but unless we know that for sure raising here might be spewy.

yes this might be true but against a compentent player such as him i shall find me in a tough spot on many rivers. I like the ch calling line

very tricky spot. you are probably ~40% vs his range here, but its an awfully annoying spot given if you shove he folds some stuff youre beating, and if you call he can choose to check back when he misses, possibly bluff sometimes, and value bet his real hands and when he hits and you are fucked being oop.

i would generally start out with a call and go for a good read on the river, but no way you play this hand from here out will feel like its good