guy looks taggish, no history between us yet..

standard play?

this is ridic...not sure what board you want with TT if you are going to 3 bet.

you should ask yourself why you are 3 betting. the way you played it looks like you are bluffing pre with TT.

check shove turn

lol, this is bad, bet turn without a doubt

Prolly bet-bet-shove, but some kind of c/c line might be good too. I'm never folding here. This is like the best board you could hope for without hitting your set. And he is probably betting floats and 9x on the turn.

what are you doing? you might as well flat pre and play TT passively.

On February 16 2012 15:31 eestwood wrote: guy looks taggish, no history between us yet.. standard play?

far from standard...

what exactly are you hoping to flop?? this is literaly the BEST flop youll ever get without actually flopping a set...

ok, so do you guys prefer betting the turn or x/shove?

when we bet the turn what worse hands is calling with? we are blocking T9, so maybe J9s,A9s.. couple combos of floats which turned flush draw,.. not much imo vs combos that beat us..

dont think he flats ur 3 bet pre with AA/KK/QQ/AKs/AKo, so i dont really understand why you check/fold. better to check shove turn or bet turn biggish.

I dont hate x/shoving, but I dont know often people float flops and bet turn with floats in 3bet pots @50NL.. when I tried this at 25NL I felt like they have a hand way too often as players are very pasive..

maybe I'll get called here by 77 all the way..

not standard spot for me so thats why I posted this hand..

the thing its what you will take away from this is whether it is best to check shove or bet turn... thats not really the key issue here.

the hand speaks volumes about you how you play and perceive the game.

you should start thinking "ive got a pair that means something, pairs are pretty good. pairs win hands. wait, ive got an overpair, overpairs are pretty fucking good"

imo

This is what happens when you mindlessly play large amounts of tables and don't actually learn anything about poker or your opponents. The only information you need here to play your hand properly is whether this guy is capable of calling with worse and whether it represents a significant portion of his range. If you don't know that it's for one reason, you didn't pay attention.

On February 16 2012 16:53 Bejamin1 wrote: This is what happens when you mindlessly play large amounts of tables and don't actually learn anything about poker or your opponents. The only information you need here to play your hand properly is whether this guy is capable of calling with worse and whether it represents a significant portion of his range. If you don't know that it's for one reason, you didn't pay attention.

The only information he need here is :
"I've got an overpair on a perfect board ,it's a 3bet pot , I'm all in"

nice trap turn , now shove

edit: actually I probably prefer check/shove than fire 3 streets with TT , at these stack they can't help themselves but bet/call with random crap.

its cool that you know about blockers and shit but you really need to focus on the more basic poker logic, this is awful :/

bet for value or bet to bluff. You should learn this before you leave nl 25. I bet you weren't even sure if you wanted to get it in pre if villain 4 betted you. If villain can't have worst when he bets on the turn then preflop is a horrible 3 bet for value. Same goes for flop, forget about protection, stats, etc. You either think villain can call with a worst made hand or float/bluff a significant amount of the time or not. As played it goes bet on turn and bet on river blank.

If guy is taggish and no history, call pre, call flop, and either c/f this turn or call this turn and call most rivers. Lower variance route is probably c/f turn because not many regs are going to continue bluffing on that turn out of no where vs unknown.