vs fish, he has pot size behind, do u like sizing? (river)

nice job , i would be tempted to shove tho... if he is a fish

well done

i like 15-18 pf, slight overpotsize flop + repop turn and get it in ?

raise turn. as played ship river

edit: thinking about it now - I dont like turn raise, call is fine. still would ship river

Nah good sizing, if you shove only JJ calls imo

He's a fish no way he fold a lower full or even NFD
raise turn is probably terribad...

For those of you advocating turn shove, look at the stack sizes. They both 300+ BB deep. I think you played it very well.

no, raise turn

raise turn is terrible ffs

No, villain is a fish, raise turn fish calls with AA, AK, QQ, JJ, KQ, KJ, QJ, K10, Pair + FD's, nut FD's. Look at how fish played preflop and flop wtf he's not even thinking.

OP doesn't show results here I'm pretty sure everybody says shove, not omg fish must have a straight

I think this is very well played

And river is an ez shove or at least some kind of raise, or you using the term fish too liberally.

And what? Fish fold full houses now?

wp

fish or no fish, villain is check raising you on turn he basically has some sense in knowing what to do in these spots, as far as AA why would villain flat pre? I can see him flatting with QQ/JJ/TT pre because of stack sizes, bet/call turn is the best imo, river bet is good.

On February 18 2012 13:32 LikeASet wrote: Look at how fish played preflop and flop wtf he's not even thinking.

I dont understand what u mean by this? Can you explain how villain shouldve played this hand preflop?

It's a fucking minraise turn with 350bb effective stack.
Seriously it tilts me.
raise turn is terrible.
Personally I would shove river (or bet more , who care we're commited to call if we bet more , he's a fish) but trolala's sizing is fine too imo

shove river wtf he is a fish

On February 18 2012 10:33 Eluflop wrote: nice job , i would be tempted to shove tho... if he is a fish

How often do you shove in these spots? It kind of goes without saying everyone is either a "fish" or a "reg" in 99% hands - no info there.

hmm, 20 responses and not one green star. I wonder if it's cuz they're all busy or if they realize preaching to a moron isn't worth the breath.

I can do a green star contribution. Shove.

On February 18 2012 14:37 Zep wrote: hmm, 20 responses and not one green star. I wonder if it's cuz they're all busy or if they realize preaching to a moron isn't worth the breath.

No need for this, the fk...

double post, damn refresh

On February 18 2012 13:58 jvilla777 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 18 2012 13:32 LikeASet wrote: Look at how fish played preflop and flop wtf he's not even thinking. I dont understand what u mean by this? Can you explain how villain shouldve played this hand preflop?

Snap fold, you don't play A10o oop in a 3bet pot vs someone 3 betting ur utg range, especially deep. Villain just wants to hit an ace or ten and call down because he's a fish just having fun. Flop is obvious check raise for villain since standard 3 bets are AK+, let alone ep 3 bets and what people c bet on that type of board.

Anyways, fish can think a straight can be good on a river with a ton of full house combinations and possible flush draw but can't think a set or two pair is the nuts on the turn?

this is pretty basic but you should only make it 135 if you think he folds when you go 136, if not there is no reason to not go like 154,162 etc but honestly just shove, whatever you bet looks strong here so we are relying on his fishiness for a call.

evilsky should be green star anyway :o

"vs fish" isnt really very helpful because fish are fish because they play unreal bad in weird ways in some spots. assuming that he just isnt some unreal foldster would probably just shove. you cant really rep thin value on that river so just boom it. cant really hate on it like 162 or whatever tho

wp except for river, which is an easy shove. You are trying to get value from a very good hand from a fish