PokerStars Hand #76168099753: Holdem No Limit ($25/$50 USD) - 2012/02/24 23:20:05 ET
Table Athamantis IV 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 4: locoo20 ($5055 in chips)
Seat 5: wobbly_au ($5000 in chips)
locoo20: posts small blind $25
wobbly_au: posts big blind $50
locoo20: posts the ante $10
wobbly_au: posts the ante $10
Holecards
Dealt to wobbly_au
locoo20: folds
Uncalled bet ($25) returned to wobbly_au
locoo20 leaves the table
wobbly_au collected $70 from pot
wobbly_au: doesnt show hand
Summary
Total pot $70 | Rake $0
Seat 4: locoo20 (button) (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: wobbly_au (big blind) collected ($70)
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wobbly_au   Australia. Feb 24 2012 23:21. Posts 6540 | | |
im sure it was a mistake but please return my Button? |
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player999   Brasil. Feb 24 2012 23:53. Posts 7978 | | |
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Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol | |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Feb 24 2012 23:56. Posts 6540 | | |
| On February 24 2012 22:53 player999 wrote:
even after he folded? |
its still a grim. |
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whamm!   Albania. Feb 25 2012 00:31. Posts 11625 | | |
maybe just pm him about it. |
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handbanana21   United States. Feb 25 2012 00:44. Posts 3037 | | |
what? I thought it was polite to fold sb and leave? I usually say "ill fold sb, gl" when i leave a table. So this is actually bad manners? |
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 25 2012 00:55. Posts 34262 | | |
As if complains about griming werent pathetic enough... he folded... WTF wobbly |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Feb 25 2012 00:56. Posts 6540 | | |
yes this is really bad manners |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Feb 25 2012 01:07. Posts 6374 | | |
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2c0ntent   Egypt. Feb 25 2012 01:08. Posts 1387 | | |
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maryn   Poland. Feb 25 2012 01:11. Posts 1208 | | |
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DooMeR   United States. Feb 25 2012 03:23. Posts 8553 | | |
meh its still a grim but w/e. theres some people i dont grim but i just grim anyone cuz they do it to me. 97% of people do it. the only ones that dont that u dont actually have a relationship with of some kind are just people that actually want to play u HU. which is fine. but the point is everyone is doing it so im just saying u and locoo being friends is the only thing that makes this matter. dont get butthurt when other people do it to u unfortunately were in that day and age now =[ |
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I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident. | |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Feb 25 2012 03:29. Posts 8649 | | |
lol sweet grim locoo high five |
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julep   Australia. Feb 25 2012 03:31. Posts 1274 | | |
what would be interesting would be the stack off ranges for this one hand.
wobbly would raise this once off btn 100%
knowing this loco 3 bets
wobbly 4 bets
since its heaps likely no one has anything
etc etc. |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Feb 25 2012 03:38. Posts 8649 | | |
| On February 25 2012 02:31 julep wrote:
what would be interesting would be the stack off ranges for this one hand.
wobbly would raise this once off btn 100%
knowing this loco 3 bets
wobbly 4 bets
since its heaps likely no one has anything
etc etc. |
just handle it ziigmund style, no 4bets necessary:
from http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=27823397&postcount=32
Ziigmund: uri hu pls
LIBERTY 6: hu
Ziigmund: dang DANG!
Urindanger: you owe me one button
Ziigmund: luul
Ziigmund: pls leave
Urindanger: lol gimme my button first
Urindanger: since you played urs
Ziigmund: r u serious?
Urindanger: yes 100% serious
Urindanger: you always jack my blind when i sit in
Urindanger: and ask me to leave
Ziigmund: ok i wil give..never seen like u...
Dealer: Ziigmund has returned
Dealer: Hand #9055220992
Dealer: Urindanger posts the small blind of $500
Urindanger: c'mon, where's your class
Dealer: Ziigmund posts the big blind of $1,000
Dealer: Urindanger raises to $3,000
Dealer: Ziigmund raises to $209,038.50, and is all in
Dealer: Urindanger folds
Dealer: Uncalled bet of $206,038.50 returned to Ziigmund
Dealer: Ziigmund mucks
Dealer: Ziigmund wins the pot ($6,000)
Dealer: Hand #9055222733
Dealer: Ziigmund has 5 seconds left to act
Dealer: Ziigmund posts the small blind of $500
Dealer: Urindanger is sitting out |
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Zep   United States. Feb 25 2012 03:48. Posts 2292 | | |
and you wonder why people think you're an asshole... |
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NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. | |
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Daut   United States. Feb 25 2012 03:50. Posts 8955 | | |
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NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut | |
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sTrAtO   Mexico. Feb 25 2012 04:30. Posts 5882 | | |
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-Karla:Mira, tu película! -Yo: cuál? -Karla: Big Fish! jaja | |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Feb 25 2012 04:32. Posts 6540 | | |
| On February 25 2012 02:48 Zep wrote:
and you wonder why people think you're an asshole... |
get a fkn clue please |
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dnagardi   Hungary. Feb 25 2012 04:34. Posts 1777 | | |
i honestly dont understand whats happened in that hand there (never play hu)
so he folded and you won an sb. whats the bm about it? |
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Sanity   United States. Feb 25 2012 04:43. Posts 1076 | | |
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sTrAtO   Mexico. Feb 25 2012 04:44. Posts 5882 | | |
| On February 25 2012 03:34 dnagardi wrote:
i honestly dont understand whats happened in that hand there (never play hu)
so he folded and you won an sb. whats the bm about it? |
I think its because wobbly didn't get to play his button. Its like if you're with a friend and both agree to slap each other ONCE, the first one decides to not slap the other one and surrender from the game but the second guy really wanted to slap the first guy but didn't get the chance. |
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-Karla:Mira, tu película! -Yo: cuál? -Karla: Big Fish! jaja | |
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Zep   United States. Feb 25 2012 04:46. Posts 2292 | | |
| On February 25 2012 03:32 wobbly_au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 02:48 Zep wrote:
and you wonder why people think you're an asshole... |
get a fkn clue please
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I need to get a clue? You make absolutely retarded posts such as this hand and also bitch about not being a green star. I can't imagine any green star coming on here and starting bullshit like this. Grow the fuck up and take it on the chin like a god damn man. Respect is earned. Your talent will only earn you so much. |
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NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. | |
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Oly   United Kingdom. Feb 25 2012 05:20. Posts 3585 | | |
Your attitude here wobbly is as petty as that of a true grimmer. |
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Researchers used brain scans to show that when straight men looked at pictures of women in bikinis, areas of the brain that normally light up in anticipation of using tools, like spanners and screwdrivers, were activated. | |
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YoMeR   United States. Feb 25 2012 05:39. Posts 12438 | | |
LOLLL
comon wobbly start being an actual baller plz. u got the money for it |
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uiCk   Canada. Feb 25 2012 06:44. Posts 3521 | | |
so nice guy locoo give u 25$ for accidently sitting in the game, and scumbag wobbly ask for moar? |
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I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson | |
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irungood   Germany. Feb 25 2012 06:51. Posts 15 | | |
Money won`t change a pathetic personality. |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Feb 25 2012 06:53. Posts 10422 | | |
How the fuck is this grimming.
This is extremely polite. Locoo respect +++++ Wobbly respect.. ehrr.. can it get any lower? |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Feb 25 2012 06:54. Posts 10422 | | |
If you had any decency at all you'd send HIM the $35 back. |
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kingpowa   France. Feb 25 2012 07:04. Posts 1525 | | |
maybe he wants his button to give the sb back |
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sorry for shitty english. | |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Feb 25 2012 07:14. Posts 6540 | | |
the cluelessness of you fucking morons astound me. I'll just refrain from posting anymore on this fucking retard of a site. |
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okyougosu   Russian Federation. Feb 25 2012 07:35. Posts 963 | | |
dont forget ur hat
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Feb 25 2012 07:36. Posts 8649 | | |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Feb 25 2012 07:40. Posts 10422 | | |
| On February 25 2012 06:14 wobbly_au wrote:
the cluelessness of you fucking morons astound me. I'll just refrain from posting anymore on this fucking retard of a site. |
Wonder how long that's gonna last. |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Feb 25 2012 07:43. Posts 6374 | | |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Feb 25 2012 07:45. Posts 8649 | | |
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lebowski   Greece. Feb 25 2012 07:48. Posts 9205 | | |
| On February 24 2012 23:44 handbanana21 wrote:
what? I thought it was polite to fold sb and leave? I usually say "ill fold sb, gl" when i leave a table. So this is actually bad manners? |
this! |
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new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... | |
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rS.Wisdom[9]   United States. Feb 25 2012 07:48. Posts 1288 | | |
| On February 25 2012 06:43 dogmeat wrote:
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winner! |
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dnagardi   Hungary. Feb 25 2012 08:35. Posts 1777 | | |
lol wobbly if u truly believe you are right and just want to get back your button u could have just pm-d him and settle this privately
but no, your intension was to make public drama and hey you got it. |
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FullBRing   Philippines. Feb 25 2012 08:46. Posts 581 | | |
YEs please !!!!!!! Dont post here anymore ! |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Feb 25 2012 08:57. Posts 6374 | | |
i actually did this to wobbly once and he explained i wouldnt have folded aces
which i certainly wouldnt
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Feb 25 2012 08:57. Posts 8918 | | |
did he sit in on you hu or was it a ring game that broke? |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Feb 25 2012 09:00. Posts 8918 | | |
Im not sure I understand whats going on lol |
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Darace   France. Feb 25 2012 09:08. Posts 255 | | |
| On February 25 2012 03:44 sTrAtO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 03:34 dnagardi wrote:
i honestly dont understand whats happened in that hand there (never play hu)
so he folded and you won an sb. whats the bm about it? |
I think its because wobbly didn't get to play his button. Its like if you're with a friend and both agree to slap each other ONCE, the first one decides to not slap the other one and surrender from the game but the second guy really wanted to slap the first guy but didn't get the chance.
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I still don't get it.
Can someone explain wtf is going on here? |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Feb 25 2012 09:17. Posts 6374 | | |
u fold ur trash and leave, but u dont fold nut hands |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Feb 25 2012 09:40. Posts 6540 | | |
it was hu. he just grimmed and left. anyone who doesnt get this is fucking bad manners if done on purpose is a fucking retard |
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humPah   Finland. Feb 25 2012 09:42. Posts 1544 | | |
| On February 25 2012 08:08 Darace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 03:44 sTrAtO wrote:
| On February 25 2012 03:34 dnagardi wrote:
i honestly dont understand whats happened in that hand there (never play hu)
so he folded and you won an sb. whats the bm about it? |
I think its because wobbly didn't get to play his button. Its like if you're with a friend and both agree to slap each other ONCE, the first one decides to not slap the other one and surrender from the game but the second guy really wanted to slap the first guy but didn't get the chance.
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I still don't get it.
Can someone explain wtf is going on here? |
Original grimming:
+ Show Spoiler +
PokerStars Game #9505723523: Hold'em No Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/04/19 - 17:28:12 (ET)
Table 'Linzia' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Grimstarr ($40000 in chips)
Seat 5: Terken89 ($40000 in chips)
Grimstarr: posts small blind $200
Terken89: posts big blind $400
Holecards
Grimstarr: raises $800 to $1200
Terken89: folds
Grimstarr collected $800 from pot
Grimstarr is sitting out
Grimstarr: doesn't show hand
Summary
Total pot $800 | Rake $0
Seat 1: Grimstarr (button) (small blind) collected ($800)
Seat 5: Terken89 (big blind) folded before Flop
Chat that followed
Dealer: Game #9505723523: Grimstarr wins pot ($800)
Dealer: Hand cancelled
Terken89: n1
Grimstarr: gonna g buy an ipod now
Terken89: good work
Terken89: no game?
Grimstarr: nty
So what Wobbly is saying is that locoo could take unfair advantage from playing only one hand HU being the button.
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Raising preflop more than 10% is somewhat wild. 5% is average. Less than 3% is passive. | |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Feb 25 2012 10:43. Posts 8649 | | |
| On February 25 2012 08:08 Darace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 03:44 sTrAtO wrote:
| On February 25 2012 03:34 dnagardi wrote:
i honestly dont understand whats happened in that hand there (never play hu)
so he folded and you won an sb. whats the bm about it? |
I think its because wobbly didn't get to play his button. Its like if you're with a friend and both agree to slap each other ONCE, the first one decides to not slap the other one and surrender from the game but the second guy really wanted to slap the first guy but didn't get the chance.
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I still don't get it.
Can someone explain wtf is going on here? |
it's been explained but just to put it another way, the button is inherently +ev and the BB is inherently -ev in any hu match. so wobbly's point is that even though locoo apparently had trash he was still in the +ev situation of playing his btn, and wobbly didn't get the same chance. seems amazingly nitty to me but there you go.
i like strato's explanation better though |
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ReADy   Bulgaria. Feb 25 2012 13:33. Posts 292 | | |
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idonklife   Sweden. Feb 25 2012 14:12. Posts 182 | | |
this is prettyyyyy bad if loco would raise any range other than rags in this spot. |
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locoo   Peru. Feb 26 2012 22:18. Posts 4561 | | |
LOL I missed this. Wobbly you should've used the PM feature, or email me, skype me or whatever what the fuck man.
My policy is this, if I fold the sb I leave, if I raise the sb I let the other guy play his button. If you don't like my policy you are one greedy motherfucker, I would love for other players to apply that when they didn't wanna hu me. Good guy locoo!
Also, sorry I WILL grim 24 tabling at 2/4 and 3/6 because it would just be stupid for me not to since everyone is going to grim me and no one really cares anyway. Would just take too much time and effort while trying not to lose my time bank to differentiate the grimmers from the non grimmers. If you are LPer though you could send me all the hands where I grimmed you and will gladly return you the money, IF I FUCKING RAISED YOUR BB, DONT SEND ME RETARDED HHs WHERE I ACTUALLY FOLDED. Thank you.
For the record I didn't even noticed this hand as I was 24 tabling. |
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bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte | Last edit: 26/02/2012 22:32 |
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iakim322   United States. Feb 28 2012 17:17. Posts 1335 | | |
| On February 25 2012 06:14 wobbly_au wrote:
the cluelessness of you fucking morons astound me. I'll just refrain from posting anymore on this fucking retard of a site. |
You failed at this on the very same day you huge vagina |
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