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Handnr: 953666
Submitted by : the cleaner

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, March 09, 06:00:34 ET 2012
Table Apollo IV Real Money
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $118.42 USD - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 7.5, Hands: 182
Seat 2: Player2 $52.74 USD - VPIP: 31, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 6.5, Hands: 36
Seat 4: Hero $232.94 USD - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 3.1, Hands: 850581
Seat 5: Player5 $104.45 USD - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2.4, Hands: 8519
Seat 6: Player6 $100.00 USD - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 7, AF: 2.4, Hands: 5676
Player5 posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Player6 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [6d7d ]
Player1 raises [$3.00 USD]
Player2 folds
Hero calls [$3.00 USD]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds

Flop (Pot : $7.50)

   5c3h3s
Player1 checks
Hero checks

Turn (Pot : $7.50)

   5c3h3s4s
Player1 bets [$5.00 USD]
Hero raises [$17.35 USD]
Player1 calls [$12.35 USD]

River (Pot : $42.20)

   5c3h3s4sJh
Player1 checks
Hero bets [$36.27 USD]
Player1 raises [$98.07 USD]

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the cleaner   Germany. Mar 09 2012 13:26. Posts 3014

Submitted by : the cleaner

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, March 09, 06:00:34 ET 2012
Table Apollo IV Real Money
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $118.42 USD - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 7.5, Hands: 182
Seat 2: Player2 $52.74 USD - VPIP: 31, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 6.5, Hands: 36
Seat 4: Hero $232.94 USD - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 3.1, Hands: 850581
Seat 5: Player5 $104.45 USD - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2.4, Hands: 8519
Seat 6: Player6 $100.00 USD - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 7, AF: 2.4, Hands: 5676
Player5 posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Player6 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [6d7d ]
Player1 raises [$3.00 USD]
Player2 folds
Hero calls [$3.00 USD]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds

Flop (Pot : $7.50)

   5c3h3s
Player1 checks
Hero checks

Turn (Pot : $7.50)

   5c3h3s4s
Player1 bets [$5.00 USD]
Hero raises [$17.35 USD]
Player1 calls [$12.35 USD]

River (Pot : $42.20)

   5c3h3s4sJh
Player1 checks
Hero bets [$36.27 USD]
Player1 raises [$98.07 USD]

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there are no facts only interpretations 

the cleaner   Germany. Mar 09 2012 06:10. Posts 3014

guy is a nit, but also has 0%pct won at showdown over small sample (180 hands). i'm probably just leveling myself. i was kind of thinking since i made a huge value bet, that he might rebluff me thinking that i'm full of crap alot.

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 09/03/2012 06:20

SpasticInk   Sweden. Mar 09 2012 06:27. Posts 6298

Weird. Really looks like rivered JJ or something (or slowplayed 55, 44). But thats such a narrow range. Folding this is very disciplined, but probably corrrect.Not often do we see something turned into a bluff here.


sChOuA   Switzerland. Mar 09 2012 06:58. Posts 2302

Hmm i don't think ppl check JJ as per on that kind of board? given that its only 55 or 44 since i don't think he opens any other hands UTG, obviously sometimes its 33 but Squads don't exist.
So i think i call pretty often here.


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Mar 09 2012 07:07. Posts 8649

JJ is usually betting flop.

does look a lot like a boat though. tbh i'd just go with my gut at the time. but if he's remotely rational there should be very few hands he can show up with on river with that he'd want to turn into a bluff. he's 16/12 so his UTG range is super nitty, if he thinks you're FOS on this board he would probably just call river with AK/AQ, and that's pretty much the bottom of his range. kind of a shame he isn't repping more combos though.

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thrust123   France. Mar 09 2012 07:37. Posts 346

i think i fold river because nits don't bluff
is it profitable to call 67s against such a tight UTG open there?


TheLink   Australia. Mar 09 2012 08:13. Posts 406

Does he never show up with like KK/AA here? Understand it doesn't make much sense to not cbet it on that board but some nits get really retarded with their slowplaying.


lebowski   Greece. Mar 09 2012 08:57. Posts 9205

you look like you turned a set or checked back to slowplay something. take it from there

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

the cleaner   Germany. Mar 09 2012 11:42. Posts 3014

thanks for the advice. yea hand felt pretty strange. i ended up folding, but it was really close. just seemed like a weird spot for him to bluff. on the other hand i was thinking that he might have rebluffed me, cause he seemed a little like those really nitty players, who don't want to surrender any hand postflop.

there are no facts only interpretations 

HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Mar 09 2012 12:40. Posts 10896

at first i tought it was 200bb deep because i coudlnt find how this isnt a snap call
but i realise its 100bb
and people think about folding
i love poker


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Mar 09 2012 13:23. Posts 8649

nothing wrong with considering all your options -.-

Truck-Crash Life 

locoo   Peru. Mar 09 2012 15:53. Posts 4561

snap call~, if u lose vs a better monster vs your monster no shame!

bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte 

waga   United Kingdom. Mar 09 2012 20:14. Posts 2375

usually nits are really horrible postflop so I call (and often laugh )


mnj   United States. Mar 10 2012 04:04. Posts 3848

it's a nit's utg range, i can't imagine him not betting any pocket pair.

prob some nitty Axs doing something stupid on the river


YoMeR   United States. Mar 13 2012 03:25. Posts 12438

a 12% raising range includes all pp as well as 67s ...

this really looks like a fold but who knows he could also be a spazz. prob a call/note is best here.

eZ Life. 

Rapoza   Brasil. Mar 13 2012 11:25. Posts 1612

--- Nuked ---

Pouncer Style 4 the win 

el_tilon   Canada. Mar 17 2012 00:16. Posts 296

I see a super std call here

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TalentedTom    Canada. Mar 17 2012 09:53. Posts 20070

hmm, my biggest fear is that he can have A2s or AA ;-0 (or some random busted spades) - therefore I would not fold ;-0

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

SemPeR   Canada. Mar 18 2012 20:08. Posts 2288

I might be a little too scared/nitty in spots like this.
Try to consider that this spot comes up so infrequently against nits.
thought: the edge good players have in this spot comes from being able to wipe the hand from their mind versus dissecting how many combos a 16/12 has over 180 hands.

He's gonna have a boat a lot, and we need 25% or whatever.


Zalfor   United States. Mar 24 2012 13:16. Posts 2236

i do not see how this is not a snapcall


 

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