Whats my plan here? Just close my eyes and shove regardless of flop? (note: with 1 player we are 177bb deep)

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And both players are loose passive fish.

the question boils down to how often one of the 2 players will have a 7 or KK vs how much money is in the pot, right?
risk your remaining stack $120 to win $150 in the pot, has to work about 45% of the time.
will they both fold close to half the time? you might have a bit of backup equity when called from the 2 ace outs too, say 5% of the final pot

gaybet fold is an option

A lot of people will call with naked hearts getting 2.25:1.

Hell, a lot of people will call with just a K. The mentality of the average PLO player isn't usually one of folding when they hit something after calling a 4b. If you think it boils down to "7 or KK", your mentality has to be super scared. Or you don't play much PLO.

And like...you have basically one of the best flops in one of the best situations for completely naked AA. <1SPR on a paired flop with 150bb already in the middle. Better yet, you have a high card to go with it, giving a bunch of TPTK combos(with or without FDs) that a poor/inexperienced player will call with. Like..are you asking if you should bet, bet small or check to trap? Because checking to trap is just asking to get fucked by some random pair or FD as it checked around. I don't think betting small will results in any more moves or calls, or any less action since the SPR is so low. The only reason I can see to bet small is because you have an aggressive dynamic with the players involved, and you want to be able to cbet small with similar efficacy in this spot when you have something that missed(AJT9ds or something). Which is fine, given my previous statement that I don't think what you bet really effects who gives you action with what, saving you money in some spots.

So basically shoving >> betting small >>>>>>>> checking

I think if you were deeper, you'd have a more interesting question, since you'd be risking too much, and flush draws would never shove over for that amount. That being said, if you were deeper, 4betting this hand would be atrocious.

On March 14 2012 21:12 MiPwnYa wrote: gaybet fold is an option

So this seems fine Quentin?

Submitted by : Joe

PokerStars Hand #77198371641: Omaha Pot Limit (€0.50/€1.00 EUR) - 2012/03/15 0:06:30 CET [2012/03/14 19:06:30 ET]
Table Phecda VIII 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: wltrs (€235.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Joeik (€177.71 in chips)
Seat 4: proedas (€100 in chips)
Seat 5: AnTiQWaR (€187.63 in chips)
Seat 6: Fussi (€104.69 in chips)
Fussi: posts small blind €0.50
wltrs: posts big blind €1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Joeik
Joeik: raises €2.50 to €3.50
proedas: raises €8.50 to €12
AnTiQWaR: folds
Fussi: folds
wltrs: calls €11
Joeik: raises €36.50 to €48.50
proedas: calls €36.50
wltrs: calls €36.50

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $0.00)

   
wltrs: checks
Joeik: bets €25
Thetutan joins the table at seat #1
proedas: raises €25 to €50
wltrs: calls €50
Joeik: folds

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $0.00)

   
wltrs: bets €136.80 and is all-in
proedas: calls €1.50 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (€135.30) returned to wltrs

River (Pot : $0.00)

   

Showdown
wltrs: shows (a flush, Ace high)
proedas: mucks hand
wltrs collected €271.85 from pot

Summary
Total pot €274 | Rake €2.15
Board  
Seat 2: wltrs (big blind) showed and won (€271.85) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: Joeik folded on the Flop
Seat 4: proedas mucked
Seat 5: AnTiQWaR (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Fussi (small blind) folded before Flop

looks fine yea