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Tensai176   Canada. Mar 22 2012 22:38. Posts 1018 | | |
Really bad at poker... All the mistakes ~.~
so I didn't think he could really 3-bet with KQo since he's pretty tight (1) so I opted to call OOP... (2)
Hit a K, thought the c-bet was pretty valuey (3) didn't think I beat his value range so I call, re-evaluate (4).
He x'ed back the turn, and the river I didn't think he'd call a bet with QQ (5) so I gave him a chance to bluff all his AQo etc. (6).
That was my thought process...
Obviously now I realize I should re-raise preflop for value (probably call KQo) if not, I should raise flop if I decide to flat AK.
Bet turn, shove river.
So pissed off he SD'ed KQo... Still lots of work I guess |
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PplusAD   Germany. Mar 22 2012 22:53. Posts 7180 | | |
If u think u dont beat his c bet range on Khxhx fd board in general when having AK then u should fold PF
What the hell are u calling for pf if the above sentence is really what u think ?
I dont understand your thought process at all
So u call pf -> hit your hand -> still assume u are behind even though u fucking hit your hand ????
-> dont call preflop or better assume u are ahead in case u hit A or K
In general
when we call preflop and hit on flop
-> we are very happy people since we dont even rely on the fold equity anymore
-> makes things easy
if we hit on flop and are very unhappy
-> this is when u realize u should have foldet pf
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U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) | Last edit: 22/03/2012 23:06 |
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Fujikura   United States. Mar 22 2012 23:12. Posts 1795 | | |
TOP PAIR THOUGH WITH TOPPEST OF KICKERS IN A THREE BET POT! |
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PplusAD   Germany. Mar 22 2012 23:21. Posts 7180 | | |
On a more serious note
Try to estimate handranges that make sense from pf to river
what u seem to do is give villian a completely new and different independent hand range every street ???
like on flop you say he c bets only for value (which i completely disagree with you ... but anyways)
then u talk about how you want to give him a chance to bluff off his Aq and other air hands on river ?
how does that compute ? |
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U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) | Last edit: 22/03/2012 23:23 |
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Tensai176   Canada. Mar 23 2012 00:11. Posts 1018 | | |
Hmmm, well I expect him to value bet all his value-range on the turn as well as some bluffs but when he checks back I don't really expect him to have anything on the river that will call a bet.
The size on the flop seemed like value but could be just his standard c-bet so wasn't sure. Was sure after the turn I had the best hand but didn't expect KQo which I could get value from. Yeah, I should start thinking more
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traxamillion   United States. Mar 23 2012 01:50. Posts 10468 | | |
yea you are really bad lol |
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traxamillion   United States. Mar 23 2012 01:52. Posts 10468 | | |
| On March 22 2012 21:38 Tensai176 wrote:
Hit a K, thought the c-bet was pretty valuey (3) didn't think I beat his value range so I call, re-evaluate (4).
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holy shit he clicked the 2/3 pot button on merge. so standard how do you read "valuey". You beat every single hand in has range but aa lol |
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traxamillion   United States. Mar 23 2012 01:54. Posts 10468 | | |
sack up, 4b get in pre
or at least check/stack flop |
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traxamillion   United States. Mar 23 2012 01:56. Posts 10468 | | |
and you must be an unreal nit for this guy to own you this hard and play his hand like this |
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Tensai176   Canada. Mar 23 2012 02:33. Posts 1018 | | |
^ I was surprised how much I got crushed this hand as well =/ |
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kingpowa   France. Mar 23 2012 05:02. Posts 1525 | | |
| On March 23 2012 00:56 traxamillion wrote:
and you must be an unreal nit for this guy to own you this hard and play his hand like this |
and you must be playing mid or high stakes to be such an asshole with your comments.
You are posting plenty of microstakes hands and I don't see people bashing you. |
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kingpowa   France. Mar 23 2012 05:08. Posts 1525 | | |
Important point is your oop, and you explain you want to let him fire (including hands that you beat) to put the money in. Your reasoning could actually work against some kind of opponents. But you should not do it in micro because vilain will do it randomly which makes it more complicated for you to adapt/play accurately.
At micros, vilains will do a lot of mistakes preflop. You have to exploit it by 4beting those kind of big hands especially oop. So 4bet it. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Mar 23 2012 07:11. Posts 34262 | | |
| On March 23 2012 04:02 kingpowa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 00:56 traxamillion wrote:
and you must be an unreal nit for this guy to own you this hard and play his hand like this |
and you must be playing mid or high stakes to be such an asshole with your comments.
You are posting plenty of microstakes hands and I don't see people bashing you.
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agreed wtf, the guy is learning give him a fucking break, ppl giving him shit have been playing for ages and still suck, so help or stfu |
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PplusAD   Germany. Mar 23 2012 07:30. Posts 7180 | | |
| On March 22 2012 23:11 Tensai176 wrote:
Hmmm, well I expect him to value bet all his value-range on the turn as well as some bluffs but when he checks back I don't really expect him to have anything on the river that will call a bet
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Well u just cant think like that.
Its just plain wrong
when u expect him to bet only his value range on flop then he has no bluffs on turn and river !
As i allready said u cant give him an independent new range every street.
When u think he has bluffs or semi strong hands in his c betting range on flop u are ahead with AK here a ton
just trying to help
Did u understand what i mean ? |
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