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Submitted by : sChOuA

PokerStars Zoom Hand #78609126816: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2) - 2012/04/09 23:51:25 CET [2012/04/09 17:51:25 ET]
Table Holmia 6-max
Seat 1: ramdachaga ($478.92 in chips)
Seat 2: turungen ($207.56 in chips)
Seat 3: SGrifon ($94 in chips)
Seat 4: limberger23 ($347.58 in chips)
Seat 5: Roy-sChOuA ($344.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Gambler4444 ($192.70 in chips)
turungen: posts small blind $1
SGrifon: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Roy-sChOuA QhQs
limberger23: folds
Roy-sChOuA: raises $4 to $6
Gambler4444: calls $6
ramdachaga: calls $6
turungen: folds
SGrifon: folds

Flop (Pot : $21.00)

   QcKdKh
Roy-sChOuA: bets $12
Gambler4444: calls $12
ramdachaga: calls $12

Turn (Pot : $57.00)

   QcKdKh6h
Roy-sChOuA: bets $32
Gambler4444: folds
ramdachaga: calls $32

River (Pot : $121.00)

   QcKdKh6h9h
Roy-sChOuA: bets $94
ramdachaga: raises $334.92 to $428.92 and is all-in

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sChOuA   Switzerland. Apr 09 2012 17:54. Posts 2302

Should be a call always what you think?

edit: this is zoom poker

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 Last edit: 09/04/2012 17:55

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 09 2012 18:06. Posts 5329

in b4 Talented tom has an anuerism

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Achoo   Canada. Apr 09 2012 18:08. Posts 1454

not sure if serious ...

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aCa_   . Apr 09 2012 18:53. Posts 470

call?

 Last edit: 09/04/2012 18:54

sChOuA   Switzerland. Apr 09 2012 18:56. Posts 2302

thanks for the comments guys, so tell me what range is he shoving here?

If you ask me he is not shoving JT or Kx, so that leaves us with 66, 99, KQ, K9 and KK, i beat 66 and 99 but from the way this hand is played i dont think he has those a whole lot, so you think he bluffs like this often, from my experience very unlikely, also we are 175bb deep.


Twisted    Netherlands. Apr 09 2012 19:00. Posts 10422

lol given he's probably a standard nit I think this is a very easy fold

villain does not have AQ or something and turning it into a bluff, 66/99 are very unlikely, I think it's almost always either slowplayed KQ or K9. I don't see how this is ever a bluff often enough to validate a call

but then again I only play PLO, maybe people are retarded enough to show up with less than K9/KQ here.


Kapol   Poland. Apr 09 2012 19:06. Posts 4696

JThh/AJhh/AThh - 3 combos
KK/KQ/K9 - 9 combos
that's 3:1 against you

you risk 200 to win 703
that's over 3.5:1

Throw in something else you beat and you're in an even better spot.

You say he doesn't have 66 or 99 here and I agree, but KK is also very unlikely due to him not squeezing pre. He might be also squeezing with KQ in this spot, so that leaves us only with K9.

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sChOuA   Switzerland. Apr 09 2012 19:11. Posts 2302

I know the range that beats me is very tiny, but i dont what else he could have.i think he bluffs never here and flush i see him calling more often i mean shoving flush is turning his hand into a bluff and why would he do that?

 Last edit: 09/04/2012 19:13

HotChip   Iceland. Apr 09 2012 19:13. Posts 146

He would always shove backdoor flush since you rep AK pretty hard.

EDIT: Realized how deep you are, looks way stronger than I first thought.

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Twisted    Netherlands. Apr 09 2012 19:16. Posts 10422

Him shoving JT or a flush doesn't make any sense to me. It's pretty far-fetched that he has those hands anyway.


rememp   Canada. Apr 09 2012 19:21. Posts 480

I don't think it's that far fetched that he has jthh or athh and just decides it's nuts on river


TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 09 2012 20:16. Posts 20070

i think checking turn here is higher EV then betting

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Fayth    Canada. Apr 09 2012 21:56. Posts 10085


  On April 09 2012 18:21 rememp wrote:
I don't think it's that far fetched that he has jthh or athh and just decides it's nuts on river


I think it's very far fetched

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Raid   United States. Apr 09 2012 22:36. Posts 318

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/ramdachaga

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-analysis/ramdachaga/0.5-1-NL-9-holdem-USD


player999   Brasil. Apr 09 2012 22:52. Posts 7978


  On April 09 2012 21:36 Raid wrote:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/ramdachaga

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-analysis/ramdachaga/0.5-1-NL-9-holdem-USD



lol

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AndrewSong    United States. Apr 10 2012 01:03. Posts 2355


  On April 09 2012 19:16 TalentedTom wrote:
i think checking turn here is higher EV then betting



this and nothing else


TimDawg    United States. Apr 10 2012 01:03. Posts 10197

yeah it seems like a fold i guess

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player999   Brasil. Apr 10 2012 01:29. Posts 7978


  On April 10 2012 00:03 TimDawg wrote:
yeah it seems like a fold i guess



against this guy??


  On April 09 2012 21:36 Raid wrote:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/ramdachaga

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-analysis/ramdachaga/0.5-1-NL-9-holdem-USD

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

Oly   United Kingdom. Apr 10 2012 04:11. Posts 3585


  On April 09 2012 19:16 TalentedTom wrote:
i think checking turn here is higher EV then betting


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