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Submitted by : Trolala

PokerStars Hand #79228259898: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2012/04/21 21:23:05 EET [2012/04/21 14:23:05 ET]
Table Josefa V 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: mikenobike ($176.54 in chips)
Seat 2: innerpsy ($260.20 in chips)
Seat 3: Jauntymon ($222.37 in chips)
Seat 4: jvans ($442.24 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: FrAnWaN ($200 in chips)
FrAnWaN: posts small blind $1
mikenobike: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Hero Ac9c
innerpsy: folds
Jauntymon: folds
jvans: raises $4 to $6
Hero: calls $6
FrAnWaN: folds
mikenobike: calls $4

Flop (Pot : $19.00)

   4c6c7s
mikenobike: bets $14
jvans: raises $30 to $44
Hero: ???

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Trolala   Estonia. Apr 21 2012 14:30. Posts 2050

fish donking, aggressive and loose (25/22) reg raising

we?

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 Last edit: 21/04/2012 14:33

Tensai176   Canada. Apr 21 2012 14:53. Posts 1018

I am bads, but anything we do besides fold looks super duper strong no? Might as well shove?


traxamillion   United States. Apr 21 2012 15:56. Posts 10468

you might just call to keep mike in though; can't hurt since ur never folding


Trolala   Estonia. Apr 21 2012 16:01. Posts 2050


  On April 21 2012 14:56 traxamillion wrote:
you might just call to keep mike in though; can't hurt since ur never folding



if we call prolly have to fold turn ?


xicotaSLB   Portugal. Apr 21 2012 17:01. Posts 1128

if you and fish call pot is gonna be 150 and you have 150 behind so i guess you should ship here since if you call and reg ships turn you have to fold.


Fayth    Canada. Apr 21 2012 17:19. Posts 10085

folding flop is also fine..

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

Tycho   Netherlands. Apr 21 2012 17:44. Posts 1553

Folding flop is fine? Why?

Against a fish and a loose reg who can raise with an overpair against whom we do very well with the nut fd?

Seems like a shove to me, and perhaps a call to keep the fish in as stated above

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 21 2012 18:20. Posts 8649

i think any info on what kind of fish he is would be more useful than objective analysis without it

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Fayth    Canada. Apr 21 2012 18:26. Posts 10085

cuz we have put 0$ on the flop in this pot, we don't have a combo draw here we have nut flush draw and the only hands against which we're doing ok, and by ok I mean not losing much money is TT-KK without a club most likely

I don't feel we're doing that well against a range of nutted hands (im guessing a reg would not be bluff raising a fish on a board like this)

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

Twisted    Netherlands. Apr 21 2012 19:04. Posts 10422

The reg could also have a bunch of lower FD's ;o. If you pokerstove this I'm pretty sure it's a shove.


mnj   United States. Apr 21 2012 19:47. Posts 3848

anyone else think there might be a lot of value in overflushing the fish? i think if you flat here, you will always get the fish to come along as well


PoorUser    United States. Apr 21 2012 20:02. Posts 7471


  On April 21 2012 17:26 Fayth wrote:
cuz we have put 0$ on the flop in this pot, we don't have a combo draw here we have nut flush draw and the only hands against which we're doing ok, and by ok I mean not losing much money is TT-KK without a club most likely

I don't feel we're doing that well against a range of nutted hands (im guessing a reg would not be bluff raising a fish on a board like this)


this tends to be my feeling but when you add in villians lower FDs and random time he raise/folds hands that he was protecting light or just randomly bluffing [which probably happens more often than it really should] vs your cold 3b i feel like it ends up being a shove

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handbanana21   United States. Apr 22 2012 04:21. Posts 3037

78-84/call to maximize fe


 

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