get it in ?

You 3-bet a fairly weak hand and got almost the best board imaginable. If you don't get it in with this spot in PLO in a 3-bet pot when do you? Hell yes get it in.

How is it that you constantly post such insanely standard spots?

I would probably call. You can get away in certain spots if you hit. Doubt he will go nuts on certain turns.

I admire Joes determination to question every spot, this is how you become great. Getting it in would not be bad but it doesn't mean it is the best possible play. If you can't make the distinction thinking about the hand odds are you probably can't when actually playing yourself.
People who don't play PLO at all or play at lower stakes should not give advice. Any advice. The preferred way to approach this being an inferior player is to make conversation and perhaps learn something.

I imagine playing multiway pots is harder in PLO, same goes for playing deep. If you add deepstacked poker in a multiway pot you get interesting spots like this which makes for interesting discussion.

This is an interesting spot because you have a drawing hand and you aren't drawing to either the nutstraight or the nutflush. Your hand can be dominated and you can be a favourite against hands that give action. I would like to read how seasoned PLO players analyze this spot.

This is not really a 3-way pot given that the third player is all-in already and extremely short. The only thing that can make this a debate between calling and shoving is knowledge of your opponent. How light does villain get it in when calling a 3-bet with 150bb relative stacks? If you don't have a significant read everything I've seen in thousands of 3-bet pots at this level suggests that people get it in damn light on a regular basis.

Honestly though I don't see how this is an interesting spot rather than just a shitty spot brought on by 3-betting with a trashy double-suited hand. I mean really, why are you playing this hand if you're not going to get excited about this flop? What board were you hoping for when you pumped it up PF?

On April 28 2012 09:49 cariadon wrote: I admire Joes determination to question every spot, this is how you become great. Getting it in would not be bad but it doesn't mean it is the best possible play. If you can't make the distinction thinking about the hand odds are you probably can't when actually playing yourself. People who don't play PLO at all or play at lower stakes should not give advice. Any advice. The preferred way to approach this being an inferior player is to make conversation and perhaps learn something.

You don't get good by questioning every spot but rather by questioning the right spots. Wasting time on spots like this is nonsense.

On April 28 2012 10:47 Hasty Pond wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2012 09:49 cariadon wrote: I admire Joes determination to question every spot, this is how you become great. Getting it in would not be bad but it doesn't mean it is the best possible play. If you can't make the distinction thinking about the hand odds are you probably can't when actually playing yourself. People who don't play PLO at all or play at lower stakes should not give advice. Any advice. The preferred way to approach this being an inferior player is to make conversation and perhaps learn something. You don't get good by questioning every spot but rather by questioning the right spots. Wasting time on spots like this is nonsense.

Get out of here. If you think this is a standard get it in spot with 150BBs I think you are lacking fundamentals regarding PLO. I am not saying we should not get it in - but dependant on player we could consider peeling. I think we might get it in really bad sometimes so not bad to just call.