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bluff or vshove wat

veeeery nice

On April 30 2012 18:00 mnj wrote: bluff or vshove wat

rly?

ok what is he trying to fold on the river that vbets this thin? Ax?

what do you do if you're holding AT here mnj

i think with AT specifically i actually might be calling is that bad? hero's value range seems so narrow, sets and AK

but i think i can turn a lot of hands into bluffs by the river like T9,JT so a c/r against that range seems pretty good.

but i'm still uncertain where i stand, because in villain's shoes it seems hard to vbet thin because of how scary the board turned for a hand like Tx/JJ/QQ so i don't know if villain is vbetting a hand like AQ (which prob 3 bet preflop)

i'm not sure if you were implying that if villain folds a hand as strong as AT its a good place to bluff, or if we are trying to get him off AT which seems to be his most likely holding


gah i wish i was better at this game but i do appreciate you trying to force me to think deeper about this hand

QT beats T9/JT.

only way to make money here is fold them off their value range a signifcant amount of the time. Looks like a losing play to me.

well it's one of the hand he's going to be holding but his range is most likely 89, Tx turned into a bluff, AT, A7, A2, KT, maybe a float with like AJ and it's actually fairly hard to call with any of these holdings even though it's probably not that hard of a call against jc cuz he loves to take this line as a bluff

so yeah basically AT is like the very top of his range and he might be folding it especially knowing this guy likes to fold