PokerStars Hand #80818636554: Omaha Pot Limit ($50/$100 USD) - 2012/05/22 2:57:01 WET [2012/05/21 21:57:01 ET]
Table Sadachbia V 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: 0Human0 ($9359 in chips)
Seat 2: Zypherin ($9975 in chips)
Seat 3: Born2DogBaby ($10673.30 in chips)
Seat 4: Terken89 ($15708 in chips)
Seat 5: Liqqa ($11027.70 in chips)
Seat 6: römpsä ($23167 in chips)
0Human0: posts small blind $50
Zypherin: posts big blind $100
0Human0: posts the ante $20
Zypherin: posts the ante $20
Born2DogBaby: posts the ante $20
Terken89: posts the ante $20
Liqqa: posts the ante $20
römpsä: posts the ante $20
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Born2DogBaby 
Born2DogBaby: raises $300 to $400
Terken89: calls $400
Liqqa: raises $1470 to $1870
römpsä: folds
0Human0: folds
Zypherin: folds
Born2DogBaby: calls $1470
Terken89: calls $1470
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $5,760.00)
Born2DogBaby: checks
Terken89: bets $3444
Liqqa: raises $5693.70 to $9137.70 and is all-in
Born2DogBaby: calls $8783.30 and is all-in
Terken89: calls $5693.70
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $32,818.70)
River (Pot : $32,818.70)
Showdown
Terken89: shows 
(a pair of Fives)
Liqqa: shows 
(a straight, Ten to Ace)
Liqqa collected $708.80 from side pot
Born2DogBaby: shows (a pair of Tens)
Liqqa collected $32224.90 from main pot
Summary
Total pot $32938.70 Main pot $32224.90. Side pot $708.80. | Rake $5
Board
Seat 1: 0Human0 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Zypherin (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Born2DogBaby showed and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 4: Terken89 showed and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 5: Liqqa showed and won ($32933.70) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 6: römpsä (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
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Eluflop Estonia. May 21 2012 22:58. Posts 3835 | | | |
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Highcard Canada. May 21 2012 22:59. Posts 5428 | | |
that liqqa fucker stole some outs
serious note, if leading, what size? |
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Ket  United Kingdom. May 21 2012 23:15. Posts 8665 | | |
not sure what size, doesn't make a massive difference either way since any bet = committed and flatting won't happen almost ever vs smaller than pot bets on a board this dry. maybe a similarish size to what terken bet looks strong and encourages foldage |
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Fraser Canada. May 22 2012 00:27. Posts 4605 | | |
Hm, how big do effective stacks have to be before u fold to this action? |
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Joeingram1 United States. May 22 2012 03:19. Posts 943 | | |
I don't think your ever c/f here so I like leading best too actually 3 way. Size i dont think matters and I think potting is best |
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longple Sweden. May 22 2012 03:27. Posts 4472 | | |
cant help but to lol at that line
"size i dont think matters, but i think potting is best" (aka biggest bet possible)
(metafor) |
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Joeingram1 United States. May 22 2012 04:02. Posts 943 | | | |
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Joeingram1 United States. May 22 2012 04:13. Posts 943 | | |
sound pretty gay, but gay people are cool too so its w/e |
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Silver_nz New Zealand. May 22 2012 05:28. Posts 5647 | | |
no it means (penis) size doesn't matter and that (honey)potting it is best. i.e., vaginal sex is superior to anal, oral, or footjob |
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I GOT IT LONGPLE AND I'M ENGAGED TO A GIRL WITHOUT A PENIS! IT'S NOT GAY! |
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. May 22 2012 10:05. Posts 8649 | | |
back to the fapping thread imo |
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thewh00sel United States. May 22 2012 10:18. Posts 2734 | | |
I guess I need to learn PLO. Gutter + top pair, looks like a check fold lol. |
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Fraser Canada. May 22 2012 11:26. Posts 4605 | | |
| | On May 22 2012 09:18 thewh00sel wrote:
I guess I need to learn PLO. Gutter + top pair, looks like a check fold lol. |
ya thats what I was thinking once i realized we didn't have a double gutter. Looks ok before 2 people beat u into the pot. Equity against a set terrible by PLO standards, but is decent I guess so long as there are no sets out there...
I was thinking that its ok to lead-call, but I would have check-folded vs this action. Can someone explain reasoning? |
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MiPwnYa Brasil. May 22 2012 11:53. Posts 5230 | | |
sets are gonna be very rare given pf action + we block TTxx, we have tp+2bdfd+gs easy ship vs aces but we dont want it to go 3way hence the psb lead suggested |
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Daut United States. May 22 2012 12:18. Posts 8955 | | |
this is an easy frontbet i think. but you cant fold once you check either. so many backdoors, all your 2 pair outs probably good and a gutshot |
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Nazgul Netherlands. May 22 2012 12:44. Posts 7080 | | |
| | On May 22 2012 11:18 Daut wrote:
this is an easy frontbet i think. but you cant fold once you check either. so many backdoors, all your 2 pair outs probably good and a gutshot |
It's an easy check/call vs just the preflop reraiser but I don't think this hand does well in a 3-way pot at all. Would love to hear some input on that from the PLO experts. We lead to isolate and are happy to lead/call cause we're committed. The goal is to be heads up with that. Once we check though shouldn't it be a fold when it's clearly a 3-way pot?
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Ket United Kingdom. May 22 2012 13:01. Posts 8665 | | |
im not a plo expert but folding as played seems like a huge mistake to me, this call is a no brainer even 3way. There's way too much in the pot and it seems impossible we don't have enough equity with this hand and with the great odds we're getting to make a call decently +ev. I don't think i even need to bother with ev calcs to confirm that (might do later anyway just for interest) |
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Nazgul Netherlands. May 22 2012 15:05. Posts 7080 | | |
I think you need like 27-28% here right? |
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Ket United Kingdom. May 22 2012 22:44. Posts 8665 | | |
just under 27% and liqqa has an overpair a big % of the time plus on a board this dry it's hard for terken or esp liqqa to have me in bad shape |
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