straightforward 19/19 tag

do you think he can value bet worse in a vacuum ?

yes?

how do you know hes in a vacuum?

I don't see how AK isn't still in his range and that alone makes this a call no? I don't know how often people prefer to check/call rivers with top pair but I value bet AQ here too.

On May 25 2012 16:35 tooker wrote: how do you know hes in a vacuum?

i lol'd

why would you flat call the turn if you weren't at least going to call the river??

-- What kind of a question is that?

I'm saying raise the turn or call the river w/no reads. Am I a fish?

raising turn is good if you have an agressive image

and well in this spot, obviously call river, he may vbet worse 2 pairs mb AK and he can also be bluffing

i just see regs x/calling this river all the time w AK, maaaybe somethin like 60% pot size bet. obv its not a good play but its 50nl.

am not asking whether to call obv, thats not the qyestion.

but to honestly evaluate all the factors in the hand - positions (tag MP opening range), 3way otf, his sizing, general value betting tendencies of players at this limit

Just saying in general, dont make situations like these harder than they really are. You have top 2 in NLH on 50NL ofcourse he can valuebet worse

what is this vacuum thing everyone is saying

i dont know man... its kinda hard to play poker let alone bet like this in a vacuum.. its dark and dusty in there.

like you could ever fit in a vacuum wobbly
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