a bit of an interesting spot, what size do we like here? anyone likes a check? its vs a pretty tight reg and some random fish

why not 2/3 pot or so?
the risk is high that this gets checked through, right?
A FD might make a bluff attempt, but probably not into two.

I would bet something between 100-110. Is the tight reg 24kgilded or jooorgen?

i think {hands that vbet} is a subset of {hands that call a bet}. and i dont think there are too many hands that will call a check shove, so id rather just bet. and on the bigger side

the random is the guy with half a stack. i think the reg is almost always on Kx here, the random could have some draws. yea I think betting like 160 is best, i sorta leveled myself into betting half pot hoping to induce something but I think thats a bit too optimistic.

i perfer checking the turn (but betting is great too)

but as played, def value bet

yeah like at least $140

On June 04 2012 14:35 EvilSky wrote: the random is the guy with half a stack. i think the reg is almost always on Kx here, the random could have some draws. yea I think betting like 160 is best, i sorta leveled myself into betting half pot hoping to induce something but I think thats a bit too optimistic.

i think ur thinking too hard if this is your thinking, unless the fish is a super spewfish or the reg is very tough/tricky/aggr betting smaller to induce a valueraise from worse or a bluffraise is pushing it in this spot.

On June 04 2012 14:26 Daut wrote: i think {hands that vbet} is a subset of {hands that call a bet}. and i dont think there are too many hands that will call a check shove, so id rather just bet. and on the bigger side

i would bet very big here as i feel if they will call they will call anyways, if they dont have like KT+ or something they will fold anyways and probably fold KT and KQ aswell on the river as i dont see u bluffing here very often into 3 ppl and 4 ppl on turn so i would target the 2 pair hands to get value from here

and then checkraiseing dosnt feel so bad actually

anternatively bet small like 40 hope he raises his 2 pair pujtting u on AJ-Kx or something and then u might get more then potsize value from his 2 pair hands

but i prefer just betting 165 (if i was playing on evilskys nickname from his perspective) or so since they wont fold their 2 pairs anyway, we look so strong 3 barreling here with so many ppl in the pot on turn and river also, hope that they make KT KQ calls and obv their 2 pairs gonna call too but they might fold the weaker 2 pairs if u overbet so i wouldnt overbet

edit:
(didnt see 1 of them were a fish, but w/e i still bet big close to pot and expect 24k to call with 2 pairs and the fish to call with Kx+ atleast)

yes in retrospect its a pretty simple bet big spot, I just took a couple months break from poker and its a bitch to get back, Ive been doing some silly stuff lately lol