villian is a 19/17 reg over 100 hands , call or shove this river ?

we can discount QQ for flatting pre+ leading the flop so we need 6ish combos of worse hands that will call, we probably can manage that so I like the shove but I dont think its outrageous to flat vs a perceived tight reg.

insanely easy shove. expect lots of weaker flushies to call, and if he has a boat then lol@him.

I would give a 19/17 flatting in the SB a flush range of KJ,J9,98,87,67,65,54 that with occasional stuff like QTs,KK,AA and maybe AQ means its a definite shove and also if he was just bluffing I think its more useful to us if he doesnt see our hand. But I think its fair that you would ask where the value comes from and not just blindly jam because you hit the nut flush.

allring

On June 20 2012 03:04 EvilSky wrote: I would give a 19/17 flatting in the SB a flush range of KJ,J9,98,87,67,65,54 that with occasional stuff like QTs,KK,AA and maybe AQ means its a definite shove and also if he was just bluffing I think its more useful to us if he doesnt see our hand. But I think its fair that you would ask where the value comes from and not just blindly jam because you hit the nut flush.

I doubt a 19/17 is calling with any of those hands you listed in the SB vs UTG raiser and no other callers.

It's only a 100 hands though so I dunno.

Actually I agree, I was trying to make the point that he doesnt have many combos but didnt want to be too stingy so I added some speculative stuff. I think he can have all those hands but probably not with a 100% frequency. Also I dont know if the BB is a fish or a pro SS, that could affect the range a lot if villain is thinking about that.

blind was a shortstacker