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Submitted by : Trolala

PokerStars Hand #82529799198: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2012/06/27 17:54:02 EET [2012/06/27 10:54:02 ET]
Table Androgeos III 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: D$llrB$NK ($155.22 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($113.79 in chips)
Seat 3: Im-iyh-rn ($320.40 in chips)
Seat 5: metal_muts ($305.27 in chips)
Seat 6: ursus123 ($492.94 in chips)
Im-iyh-rn: posts small blind $0.50
42neverlose: is sitting out
42neverlose leaves the table
metal_muts: posts big blind $1
D$llrB$NK: posts the ante $0.20
Hero: posts the ante $0.20
Im-iyh-rn: posts the ante $0.20
metal_muts: posts the ante $0.20
ursus123: posts the ante $0.20

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero JcQh
ursus123: folds
D$llrB$NK: folds
Hero: raises $1.50 to $2.50
Im-iyh-rn: raises $5.50 to $8
metal_muts: folds
Hero: calls $5.50

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $17.00)

   4s4c6s
Im-iyh-rn: checks
Hero: bets $10
Im-iyh-rn: calls $10

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $37.00)

   4s4c6sJh
Im-iyh-rn: checks
Hero: bets $22
Im-iyh-rn: calls $22

River (Pot : $81.00)

   4s4c6sJh6h
Im-iyh-rn: checks
Hero: bets $73.59 and is all-in
Im-iyh-rn: calls $73.59

Showdown
Hero: shows JcQh (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
Im-iyh-rn: shows Ad6c (a full house, Sixes full of Fours)
Im-iyh-rn collected $226.38 from pot

Summary
Total pot $229.18 | Rake $2.80
Board  4s4c6sJh6h
Seat 1: D$llrB$NK folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: Hero (button) showed JcQh and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sixes
Seat 3: Im-iyh-rn (small blind) showed Ad6c and won ($226.38) with a full house, Sixes full of Fours
Seat 5: metal_muts (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: ursus123 folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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Trolala   Estonia. Jun 27 2012 11:30. Posts 2050

Do you like river jam? (Will he have worst, will he fold better?)


Player:
not sure if he is a reg or fish

stats were 40/25 and 3bet was 20%


Preflop call is kind of bad, but he had 3bet few hands previously and it's quite small 3bet (and we're 110bb's deep)



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Oly   United Kingdom. Jun 27 2012 12:12. Posts 3585

Preflop: I don't like playing this postflop, but I'd be very happy 4bet/folding it with the blockers. If he's going crazy with 3bets it's ok to open your calling range, but it still shouldn't include JQo yet imo.

Flop: Kinda whatever. It'll be a chilly day in Hades when an aggro player c/f 664ss after reraising, but it's nice to take the initiative and balance having 88 here, but I've never been a fan of balancing so I'd check without long previous and expected future history.

Turn/River: Standard - prepare to get snapped by ace high.

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Oly   United Kingdom. Jun 27 2012 12:18. Posts 3585

Also, re calling pre, I think with JQo being a touch deeper is a downside to calling not a plus, since it's heavy with reverse implied odds.

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TalentedTom    Canada. Jun 27 2012 12:41. Posts 20070

I think this is 100% fine

His 3-bet size is very small, we have position and good pot:stack ratio postflop

It`s very different when you open 3bb and someone makes it 11bb - you literaly have about 40% more postflop play here. This is almost the mathematical equivalent of being 170bb deep and making it 3x and someone making it 11x


Also the way he played his hand on the flop turn and river suggests we can crush him postflop with a large variety of hands as long as we have position

If the river was Q through 2 that was not a spade we stack him almost 100% of the time , this is just a very unlucky river

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TalentedTom    Canada. Jun 27 2012 12:43. Posts 20070

poop

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the sameLast edit: 27/06/2012 14:58

n0rthf4ce    United States. Jun 27 2012 14:41. Posts 8119


  On June 27 2012 11:43 TalentedTom wrote:
I think if you turn your hand into a preflop blocker game, it`s something most players are very adept with these days, you basically lower your edge because you can now be solved very easily via HUD, furthermore I`m sure hes gonna have decent shoving ranges pre given the preflop positions. By flatting you put him in a spot where he clearly had no idea what to do and you gained a massive edge (since his plan was to clearly close his eyes and clock check call any on every street)

PLEASE SHHH WITH THIS COMMENT.

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lebowski   Greece. Jun 27 2012 15:32. Posts 9205

oh come on let the generous man be generous

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

Tensai176   Canada. Jun 27 2012 15:33. Posts 1018

I wasn't sure why I was totally fine with shoving river but now I kind of understand. Thank you


 

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