I'd repop pretty huge. You are just going to have such a super hard time getting a penny out of anything that isn't coolered or the As that you might as well target them since they'll never fold the flop.

the cbettor is a fishi player and the other one is a loosish reg . i have 40 hands on them tho .. so what is my best option here ?

fold.

Fo reals though, raise and pretty big.

On June 28 2012 18:22 Stim_Abuser wrote: fold.

this, one of them must have JTss

i think the most optimal play here is the most exploitable one, make it SUPER small and hope they chase a dead draw / spazz out with worse (ex As, set 2 pair etc..)

that being said, if I had something like K2ss I'd blast the shit out of this spot, this is a very special situation where you cant ever lose the hand

On June 28 2012 18:35 TalentedTom wrote: i think the most optimal play here is the most exploitable one, make it SUPER small and hope they chase a dead draw / spazz out with worse (ex As, set 2 pair etc..)

Meh they're 200bb deep so I expect you could make it decently big and still get people to try and draw.

If it was 100bb deep I'd agree with making it pretty small.

tribune's betsizing is kinda weak. i don't know how much stock you can put into his bet size, but i would expect him to cbet bigger if he flopped a flush.

from the loose villain, i expect him to raise most raise/lead most big hands as well so i don't think either player seems that strong.

if either have a strong hand i expect them to bomb the flop/turn.

that said there is too many hands that might check it through on the turn, and since big hands will have a hard time folding anyway, seems the best play here is to c/r flop 100%

On June 28 2012 18:50 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On June 28 2012 18:35 TalentedTom wrote: i think the most optimal play here is the most exploitable one, make it SUPER small and hope they chase a dead draw / spazz out with worse (ex As, set 2 pair etc..) Meh they're 200bb deep so I expect you could make it decently big and still get people to try and draw. If it was 100bb deep I'd agree with making it pretty small.

being deep is almost irrelivant here since money is rarley going in - furthermore small CR is WAYYY more likley to induce spazz / float. Being OOP in this hand is a MASSIVE advantage since people are gonna over value their position vs our range. BIG CR will put people in call (and fold most turns) / fold mode, whereas the more room you give them postflop the more creative they will get. It's a spot where if a guy has KTo with Ks or Ts, JJ, T9s etc.. he will peel a small CR (this is a MASSIVE part of most peoples range) whereas vs a big CR, you force him to have 66+ and you also force him to play a defensive game since you arnt giving him room to rebluff.

Only way I like a big CR is if you have a super aggro image.. which from my experience 95%+ of regs do not have. Aggresive preflop image =/= aggresive postflop image, NO ONE in todays mid stakes games has any concept of postflop aggresion

NO ONE in todays mid stakes games has any concept of postflop aggresion

but you do obviously !!

On June 28 2012 20:57 waga wrote: Show nested quote + NO ONE in todays mid stakes games has any concept of postflop aggresion but you do obviously !!

what im saying is that most multi-tabling regs play their version of straight forward most of the time

raise small ball til ya fall.

minraise

Hey LP pls do some interview w/ TalentedTom

nice post TT.ty

yes very nice post Tom