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Eluflop   Estonia. Jul 02 2012 20:43. Posts 3835 | | |
the guy is a reg, call/fold or ship ? |
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barbieman   Sweden. Jul 02 2012 20:54. Posts 2132 | | |
His line makes 0 sense/ is very bad. Call and re-evaluate river. |
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barbieman   Sweden. Jul 02 2012 21:04. Posts 2132 | | |
His range will mostly consists of nut type hands and As. I don't see what we gain by shoving here. |
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waga   United Kingdom. Jul 02 2012 21:13. Posts 2375 | | |
we're OOP we have a tough decision on most of the river , he doesn't fold As , and will probably give up river if he misses. |
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waga   United Kingdom. Jul 02 2012 21:16. Posts 2375 | | |
I mean if he shows flush or QQ+ here I laugh , take a note and move on. |
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barbieman   Sweden. Jul 02 2012 21:21. Posts 2132 | | |
If it's a spade and he shoves it's a pretty easy fold. Non spade shove we will almost definitely call. If we shove turn he can play perfect every time.
We don't know how he plays river when he misses. |
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barbieman   Sweden. Jul 02 2012 21:22. Posts 2132 | | |
ok, won't make a huge difference in your winrate I just don't think it's the best way to play the hand. |
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waga   United Kingdom. Jul 02 2012 21:29. Posts 2375 | | |
yeah I guess you're right.
but with this bullshit line , imo , there is a huge % of draw in his range , draw he doesn't fold.
if he bluff a brick he's an idiot. |
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handbanana21   United States. Jul 02 2012 22:45. Posts 3037 | | |
Its either a fold or call depending on what you know about the opponent. Shipping is pretty bad. Id call and only fold on an Ace or spade |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jul 03 2012 00:55. Posts 20070 | | |
| On July 02 2012 20:21 barbieman wrote:
If it's a spade and he shoves it's a pretty easy fold. Non spade shove we will almost definitely call. If we shove turn he can play perfect every time.
We don't know how he plays river when he misses. |
If I had to guess and bet money on it (which we are doing) probably the same way he plays when he misses the flop |
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lebowski   Greece. Jul 03 2012 08:10. Posts 9205 | | |
well this is nl50 one shouldn't be surprised if he 3bet 56 of spades vs an utg raiser for no reason and then decided he has no FE and checked to get there cheaply (or even Axss) |
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patti   United States. Jul 03 2012 08:39. Posts 550 | | |
This is nl50 can be anything. |
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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Jul 03 2012 12:14. Posts 5113 | | |
Either he saw the Phil Galfond video about checking behind nut flush draw on flop or he has 88 lol
Or he has some random hand with 1 spade |
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Arirang   Canada. Jul 03 2012 13:59. Posts 1673 | | |
I'd probably jam on turn... part of me wants this to reach showdown, but I think our hand is quite vulnerable as it reaches river and thus it may not be worth playing river. I want to avoid spots where I put in ~40% of my stack and relying much on my opponent to be bluffing on the river to profit. |
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