PokerStars Zoom Hand #83129968627: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2012/07/10 21:10:36 CET [2012/07/10 15:10:36 ET]
Table Gotha 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($170.14 in chips)
Seat 2: Aces Amin ($102.66 in chips)
Seat 3: Mystiske ($128.22 in chips)
Seat 4: kobrapower ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: maxp0werz ($98 in chips)
Seat 6: abbas_ams ($172.39 in chips)
Aces Amin: posts small blind $0.50
Mystiske: posts big blind $1
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero 
kobrapower: folds
maxp0werz: folds
abbas_ams: folds
Hero: raises $2 to $3
Aces Amin: folds
Mystiske: raises $6.50 to $9.50
Hero: calls $6.50
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $19.50)
Mystiske: checks
Hero: bets $13.96
Mystiske: calls $13.96
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $47.42)
Mystiske: checks
Hero: bets $33.96
Mystiske: calls $33.96
River (Pot : $115.34)
Mystiske: checks
Hero: checks
Showdown
Mystiske: shows 
(two pair, Aces and Nines)
Hero: shows (a full house, Nines full of Queens)
Hero collected $112.54 from pot
Summary
Total pot $115.34 | Rake $2.80
Board
Seat 1: Hero (button) showed and won ($112.54) with a full house, Nines full of Queens
Seat 2: Aces Amin (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Mystiske (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 4: kobrapower folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: maxp0werz folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: abbas_ams folded before Flop (didnt bet)
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Hert48 Netherlands. Jul 10 2012 15:12. Posts 64 | | |
is this too tight, is he ever calling with worse?
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come on dude.. he was paying you off |
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MeProOk Bulgaria. Jul 10 2012 15:34. Posts 246 | | |
std check behind for me on the river. I would just bet less on the flop for balance. std played imo. |
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| | On July 10 2012 14:34 MeProOk wrote:
std check behind for me on the river. I would just bet less on the flop for balance. std played imo. |
this is a terrible reason to bet smaller on the flop ;-0 your balancing your ranges vs people who cant hand read, villian is closing his eyes and clicking check/call any.. this is extremely common in bad regs in all forms of poker. Checking the near nuts vs these guys and calling it standard is really not the best way to approach the game |
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MeProOk Bulgaria. Jul 10 2012 15:49. Posts 246 | | |
| | On July 10 2012 14:46 TalentedTom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 14:34 MeProOk wrote:
std check behind for me on the river. I would just bet less on the flop for balance. std played imo. |
this is a terrible reason to bet smaller on the flop ;-0 your balancing your ranges vs people who cant hand read
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I believe you are trying to troll me sir  |
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| | On July 10 2012 14:49 MeProOk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 14:46 TalentedTom wrote:
| | On July 10 2012 14:34 MeProOk wrote:
std check behind for me on the river. I would just bet less on the flop for balance. std played imo. |
this is a terrible reason to bet smaller on the flop ;-0 your balancing your ranges vs people who cant hand read
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I believe you are trying to troll me sir |
if you also believe checking this river is correct, you may need to change your beliefs |
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MeProOk Bulgaria. Jul 10 2012 15:59. Posts 246 | | |
RE: checking behind on the river- I would check behind, yes, unless of course we have a read that he can pay off with AA.
RE: betting less for balancing- we are not balancing against this particular player, but against all players on the table. also where did OP mention that villain is bad and/or can't read hands? I don't think we should be concluding this after seeing results. I still believe you're trolling. |
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| | On July 10 2012 14:59 MeProOk wrote:
RE: checking behind on the river- I would check behind, yes, unless of course we have a read that he can pay off with AA.
RE: betting less for balancing- we are not balancing against this particular player, but against all players on the table. also where did OP mention that villain is bad and/or can't read hands? I don't think we should be concluding this after seeing results. I still believe you're trolling. |
Yeah, because 9 tabling regs are paying attention to other players bet sizing when they are not involved in a hand... |
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Spicy United States. Jul 10 2012 16:51. Posts 1027 | | |
I think a betting river is better as part of an overall game plan vs a guy who's just gonna c/c down aces here after 3betting. He's basically expecting to be able to call 2 streets and get to showdown. So when you check back a hand as strong as this and never try to 3 barrel bluff, he is countering you perfectly. This is an ideal spot to punish his weak passive play |
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lacman730 United States. Jul 10 2012 17:18. Posts 311 | | |
I think villain's range here is pretty much always AAxx or AKxx with a draw or a slowplayed KKxx. Almost everything else I never see people take the k/c, k/c, k line with. With this range, combo-wise you have the best hand soooo often so checking seems bad especially since so many people can't find the fold button with AAxx in 3 bet pots.
I personally would bet this river, but probably closer to the 50%-66% range. My reasoning is that the obvious draw missed so people have more reason to talk themselves into a call. I do think that sizing it larger might discourage AAxx from paying off and of course occasionally you run into a slowplayed KKxx here so you save money when that happens. |
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Daut  United States. Jul 10 2012 17:23. Posts 8955 | | |
you cannot check here.
in his eyes you may be betting 100% of the hands you called his 3bet with trying to bluff him on a scary board for AA. this is an easy value bet |
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