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Submitted by : the cleaner

PokerStars Hand #84659305947: Holdem No Limit (€0.25/€0.50 EUR) - 2012/08/13 7:21:01 ET
Table Sarita III 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: the clêaner (€60.62 in chips)
Seat 3: LuckyAlenka (€127.04 in chips)
Seat 4: ljryviltj (€81.51 in chips)
Seat 5: Denkua (€57.19 in chips)
Seat 6: Miki471 (€7.73 in chips)
Denkua: posts small blind €0.25
Miki471: posts big blind €0.50
Valygaaar: sits out

Holecards
Dealt to the clêaner ThTs
the clêaner: raises €1 to €1.50
LuckyAlenka: folds
ljryviltj: calls €1.50
Denkua: folds
Miki471: folds

Flop (Pot : $0.00)

   4c2dJc
the clêaner: bets €2.57
ljryviltj: calls €2.57

Turn (Pot : $0.00)

   4c2dJcQd
the clêaner: bets €6.11
ljryviltj: calls €6.11

River (Pot : $0.00)

   4c2dJcQd2h
the clêaner: checks
ljryviltj: bets €17.50
the clêaner: raises €32.94 to €50.44 and is all-in
ljryviltj: folds
Uncalled bet (€32.94) returned to the clêaner
the clêaner collected €54.11 from pot
the clêaner: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot €56.11 | Rake €2
Board  4c2dJcQd2h
Seat 1: the clêaner collected (€54.11)
Seat 3: LuckyAlenka folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: ljryviltj (button) folded on the River
Seat 5: Denkua (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Miki471 (big blind) folded before Flop

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julep   Australia. Aug 13 2012 08:27. Posts 1274

thought process? looks bad to me but ive never understood poker

what is he value betting that is folding to shove?


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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Aug 13 2012 08:33. Posts 5329

agree with julep.

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sChOuA   Switzerland. Aug 13 2012 11:09. Posts 2302

I think I could see him folding some KJ AJ type of hand


the cleaner   Germany. Aug 13 2012 11:20. Posts 3014

well i know he value bets thin, so i wanted to push out those hands.

there are no facts only interpretations 

the cleaner   Germany. Aug 13 2012 12:05. Posts 3014

am i wrong in thinking that i can represent 44/22/QJ/KK/AA/JJ/QQ/A2cc and he can't really represent so many strong hands. i think all those hands can go for a ch/raise, since he shouldn't really be holding a strong hand very often, unless he got cute and slowplayed on that double suited board. i think i will get looked up most of the time when 3barreling, but rarely when ch/raising, unless he's stubborn, cause it's kind of a bad spot for me to bluff.

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 13/08/2012 12:14

the cleaner   Germany. Aug 13 2012 12:09. Posts 3014

if i don't think that he would value bet that river thin i would not take that line.

there are no facts only interpretations 

the cleaner   Germany. Aug 13 2012 12:17. Posts 3014

his stats over 6k hands are 22/19/2.2, 22%wtsd

there are no facts only interpretations 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Aug 13 2012 12:34. Posts 5329


  On August 13 2012 11:05 the cleaner wrote:
am i wrong in thinking that i can represent 44/22/QJ/KK/AA/JJ/QQ/A2cc and he can't really represent so many strong hands. i think all those hands can go for a ch/raise, since he shouldn't really be holding a strong hand very often, unless he got cute and slowplayed on that double suited board. i think i will get looked up most of the time when 3barreling, but rarely when ch/raising, unless he's stubborn, cause it's kind of a bad spot for me to bluff.



seems like fps to me, and thiner value betting range from villian means more bluffcatchers, which could be worse for you.

If you're getting looked up here most of the time when 3 barreling then this line doesn't make much sense either, and is contradictory to your reason for having a check/jam range here.

Also you say yourself this is a bad spot to bluff. Yeah so you're relying on leveling someone to pull off a successful bluff? Not a good idea at any stake, but especially nl50.


just my thoughts.

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the cleaner   Germany. Aug 13 2012 13:30. Posts 3014

yeah it's definitely not my usual line. was just explaining my thought process. but maybe you guys are right. i might have bluffed with the best hand.

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 13/08/2012 13:30

Arirang   Canada. Aug 13 2012 13:53. Posts 1673

I don't mind this based on his wtsd% and all that other good shit like the ranges you are repping, his range of thin vbets etc.


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Aug 13 2012 14:27. Posts 8918

I dont know about this one, all I know is whenever a reg bb c/r ai on a brick vs me they had the stone nuts so if he is capable of vbetting thin AND folding I guess this is good.


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Aug 13 2012 17:28. Posts 10896

did not read the comment

vwp to me imo


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Aug 13 2012 17:37. Posts 10896

and river is not a brick it give us the best hand if we have AA KK if he is holding QJ obv

 Last edit: 13/08/2012 17:37

 

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