hmm interesting spot ... what about leading flop ?

c/c I guess?

Ok we c/c and turn bricks off completely and he fires big?
Or we turn a flush and he fires big?
Or we turn low end of straight and he fires big?

I think brick and big bet we fold, I think flush we have to call..., I think low end straight is a c/r because he's probably bet calling some big combo draws on a 5 since it shouldnt really change much for us.

Maybe?

how low is this low 3b? is he still 3bing raggy AA and KKxx (as well as monster hands and good rundowns) , and more importantly is he gonna cb AA/KK relatively unimprove on this board? I think if he does then you might as well get it in (c/r) for 100bb as then you'll get in nicely ahead enough of the time to counteract the times you're beat by straights/ higher draws etc, especially as it's unlikely for you to not have some outs. Deeper it's stupidly lame

Small sample but iirc it his 3bet was <4, like 3.5 or osmething like that --- Going bed now will check to make sure tomorrow.

Really duno him well enough to say whether he cbets in 3bet pots or not, I think this is the first 3bet pot we've been in or I've seen him in.

i think this is an open limp from EP.... for exactly this problem. youre never going to flop the nutted draws ever :/

On August 21 2012 13:49 TampaBayMat wrote: i think this is an open limp from EP.... for exactly this problem. youre never going to flop the nutted draws ever :/

open limping a hand that wants a HU pot with a low-medium SPR is not smart

easy call vs nit with low 3b !

Isnt this a typical flop that nits will check/fold their aces on ?

Ya so i figure he prob doeantt have aa25r

On August 21 2012 12:39 TianYuan wrote: Small sample but iirc it his 3bet was <4, like 3.5 or osmething like that --- Going bed now will check to make sure tomorrow. Really duno him well enough to say whether he cbets in 3bet pots or not, I think this is the first 3bet pot we've been in or I've seen him in.

NVm what I said about <4, it's <2 lol

Can be pretty sure he has aces then but something to go along with it. Some small part of his range may include broadway rundowns as well. Would also just check/call because if we do ship we're not really gonna get it in ahead. I feel like he'll have nutflushdraw too often. I also think he's gonna check turn a lot if it bricks.

Hm I was actually looking at the wrong player in the database, they had similiar ids -_ - He's got a reasonable 7% 3bet now, b ut at the time it was much lower.