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Handnr: 983103
Submitted by : the cleaner

PokerStars Hand #85398045453: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2012/08/29 8:39:41 ET
Table Bellona IV 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: the clêaner ($279.62 in chips)
Seat 2: QQ_theplayer ($243.33 in chips)
Seat 3: thecurv ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: baal1988 ($174.94 in chips)
Seat 5: cmore1985 ($215.87 in chips)
thecurv: posts small blind $0.50
baal1988: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to the clêaner QcQs
cmore1985: folds
the clêaner: raises $2 to $3
QQ_theplayer: folds
thecurv: folds
baal1988: calls $2

Flop (Pot : $6.50)

   7h2c2d
baal1988: bets $4.65
the clêaner: calls $4.65

Turn (Pot : $15.80)

   7h2c2dJs
baal1988: checks
the clêaner: bets $7.84
baal1988: calls $7.84

River (Pot : $31.48)

   7h2c2dJs7d
baal1988: checks
the clêaner: bets $19.50
baal1988: raises $47.40 to $66.90
the clêaner: folds
Uncalled bet ($47.40) returned to baal1988
baal1988 collected $67.68 from pot
baal1988: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot $70.48 | Rake $2.80
Board  7h2c2dJs7d
Seat 1: the clêaner folded on the River
Seat 2: QQ_theplayer (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: thecurv (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: baal1988 (big blind) collected ($67.68)
Seat 5: cmore1985 folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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the cleaner   Germany. Aug 29 2012 08:46. Posts 3014

villain is 19/15/2.7/4. you guys like this line ? i would float with all kind of stuff when villain donks into this type of board. not much value in raising flop anyways. i think river is an easy fold.

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julep   Australia. Aug 29 2012 08:47. Posts 1274

raise flop imo since you will look full of shit.

that turn bet...

on the turn he is either check folding or check calling.

 Last edit: 29/08/2012 08:51

the cleaner   Germany. Aug 29 2012 08:59. Posts 3014

i usualy never raise here, cause villain will have to play 3 streets oop and holding a weak hand most of the time and i can hold pretty much anything. i can put a lot of pressure on him when holding like overcards, and i can balance it by playing my overpairs 3 of a kind and stuff the same, so i just let him spew.

actualy by raising i represent much less imo.

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 29/08/2012 09:00

Eluflop   Estonia. Aug 29 2012 09:03. Posts 3835

the flat on flop is okei but id go bigger on turn since he usually has 55667x8899TT or sumtin here and is not foldin the turn


julep   Australia. Aug 29 2012 09:20. Posts 1274


  On August 29 2012 07:59 the cleaner wrote:
i usualy never raise here, cause villain will have to play 3 streets oop and holding a weak hand most of the time and i can hold pretty much anything. i can put a lot of pressure on him when holding like overcards, and i can balance it by playing my overpairs 3 of a kind and stuff the same, so i just let him spew.

actualy by raising i represent much less imo.



this post makes no sense


the cleaner   Germany. Aug 29 2012 09:21. Posts 3014


  On August 29 2012 08:20 julep wrote:
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this post makes no sense


why ?

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TalentedTom    Canada. Aug 29 2012 09:38. Posts 20070


  On August 29 2012 08:21 the cleaner wrote:
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why ?



by raising I rep less, therefore I will call...

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morph1   Sierra Leone. Aug 29 2012 09:50. Posts 2352

generaly being balanced on low stakes is not realy the best/important thing...

I would agree that raising could be good if your opponent is a good hand reader that loves to outplay people and is not afraid to bluff and might go crazy with some marginal hand
I'm not sure if you can expect that from 19/15 to be creative and fight for the pots or to put a lot of money with margianl hand

vs people that will not realy be happy to bluff you or get it in light or if they are weak and just folds to your raise... the best way should be the way you played this hand
just make your turn bet little bigger probably

as far as why your post makes no sense.. is because if villain is even descent hand reader, he will think that your raise represents a jack shit, as there is not realy a hand that should be raising here for value

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the cleaner   Germany. Aug 29 2012 09:52. Posts 3014

what i mean is that by raising i represent a narrow value range, thus making a raise less believable. but by calling i can still represent a stong hand or air.

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 29/08/2012 09:54

morph1   Sierra Leone. Aug 29 2012 09:55. Posts 2352

so that's why you raise for value as he will likely spew with worse or rebluff because your raise is less believable

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the cleaner   Germany. Aug 29 2012 09:56. Posts 3014


  On August 29 2012 08:55 morph1 wrote:
so that's why you raise for value as he will likely spew with worse or rebluff because your raise is less believable



yea but villain is 19/15 nit

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the cleaner   Germany. Aug 29 2012 10:04. Posts 3014


  On August 29 2012 07:47 julep wrote:
raise flop imo since you will look full of shit.

that turn bet...

on the turn he is either check folding or check calling.



i think i get your post now. you mean i should raise flop, so that i look full of shit.

i thought u where critizising my call, cause u thought that it looks like i'm full of shit. wich didn't make sense to me, cause it seemed like a good think to look like being full of shit. probably misinterpreted what you posted cause playing + posting hands, sorry.

i think raising is good, just thought that this player wasn't willing to take to much heat.

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 29/08/2012 10:05

 

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