PokerStars Zoom Hand #86835797133: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2012/09/28 7:49:00 CET [2012/09/28 1:49:00 ET]
Table Gotha 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: beatenblood ($254.63 in chips)
Seat 2: TarDinaCash ($66.06 in chips)
Seat 3: sorinkey ($466.06 in chips)
Seat 4: pavsywuvsy ($388.68 in chips)
Seat 5: TianYuan ($252.91 in chips)
Seat 6: ucthelegend ($130.43 in chips)
TarDinaCash: posts small blind $0.50
sorinkey: posts big blind $1
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to TianYuan 
pavsywuvsy: calls $1
TianYuan: raises $3.50 to $4.50
ucthelegend: folds
beatenblood: calls $4.50
TarDinaCash: calls $4
sorinkey: calls $3.50
pavsywuvsy: calls $3.50
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $22.50)
TarDinaCash: checks
sorinkey: checks
pavsywuvsy: checks
TianYuan: bets $21.49
beatenblood: folds
TarDinaCash: folds
sorinkey: folds
pavsywuvsy: calls $21.49
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $65.48)
pavsywuvsy: checks
TianYuan: bets $45
pavsywuvsy: raises $104 to $149
TianYuan: calls $104
River (Pot : $363.48)
pavsywuvsy: checks
TianYuan: bets $77.92 and is all-in
pavsywuvsy: calls $77.92
Showdown
TianYuan: shows (three of a kind, Kings)
pavsywuvsy: shows 
(a straight, Three to Seven)
pavsywuvsy collected $516.52 from pot
Summary
Total pot $519.32 | Rake $2.80
Board
Seat 1: beatenblood (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: TarDinaCash (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: sorinkey (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: pavsywuvsy showed and won ($516.52) with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 5: TianYuan showed and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 6: ucthelegend folded before Flop (didnt bet)
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TianYuan  Korea (South). Sep 28 2012 01:53. Posts 6817 | | |
Should probably just check back. Bleh, I hate th is turn so much, but I have to bet right? |
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TianYuan Korea (South). Sep 28 2012 01:55. Posts 6817 | | |
Actually should definitely check river heh, but turn... I hate turn. |
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nah f' it, just take your showdownvalue. With pot left I'd like it much better. |
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cnew27 United States. Sep 28 2012 05:01. Posts 76 | | |
i think i would re-eval the turn bet. i dont mind it but his range is either flush draw or middle wrap thingy so its more like we are betting strictly for protection and less so for value. and when we get raised you should definitely mess with PPT and figure out if you have equity. having the 3 in your hand sucks. and id never bluff river here  |
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TianYuan Korea (South). Sep 28 2012 05:09. Posts 6817 | | |
I'd have folded if he hadnt made it less than pot ;< |
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cnew27 United States. Sep 28 2012 05:24. Posts 76 | | |
we are 21% versus 75**
we are calling 104 to win 363 (this demands 28.6% equity)
and lets assume he never folds board pairing rivers
so effectively calling 104 to win 363+78
so effectively calling 104 to win 441
even then it still demands 23.5% equity
pretty sure my math is correct? that your call is slightly losing EV so turn is a betfold assuming he never checkraises without 75** but will station with worse hands + clubdraws. not sure how the overall EV of a turn bet compares to a check given these assumptions. that would require lengthy math. |
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cnew27 United States. Sep 28 2012 05:28. Posts 76 | | |
note that if you changed your 3d to the Td your hands equity becomes 23.7% versus 75** so you would then be making about a breakeven call assuming you got paid on every board pair. and the deeper you are the more profitable your turn call would be.
this is assuming my math is correct >_< |
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He has some random crap some % of the time too: We can't just assume that topset ain't good when the flushdraw missed and it's a card he should c/r as a bluff a fair bit. |
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cnew27 United States. Sep 28 2012 06:31. Posts 76 | | |
should c/r, yes. but so so so so few people do. if this is one of those players then obviously make the proper adjustment. |
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