Fuck maybe spewy vs someone like this guy. Hmhmhmhmhm

vs nitty players cc is better than cr (then cf UI river)
vs typical player i bet/call turn 200 deep

100 deep too, there is no reason to check here.
Board texture did not change nuts, so AA aren't scared
And turn brought ton of new draws - this is 2nd most drawy (excluding ds boards) texture behind JT54ss.
So I expect to see ton of check/behinds, but not many folds to a shove 100 deep because hand have pari+draws so often.

Hm, I thought that was why I wanted to c/r, because I dominate the pair+draw hands so badly.

I guess most of the hands that we are happy to get it in with here, are pretty likely to shove over our turn bet anyway so I just end up missing out on value vs the hands that would have just called but are now checking behind.

except pair+draw will check behind instead of betting.
Why would pair+ gutshot (or turned fd) bet turn? Risk of CR is substantial, FE is small too (from better hands)

I mean, pair+draw will check behind trying to realize equity, and maybe bluff good rivers. This is how I would play it.
Hands like these call way more often than bet themselves.

I woulndt pot turn I think - bet 35-40 and then ... well almost any flush river will also bring straight, so id bet NF on the river, and cc on offsuit cards that bring only 1 straight

Meh... river changes texture in many ways so hard to enumerate all actions.
Main point is:
1) vs hands that shove over bet - it doesnt matter if you bet or cr, they would bet themselves anyway
2) vs pair+draw you get more value by betting turn (otherwise it will get ck/ck)
3) vs dry pair - same (few of them are dry on that turn)