PokerStars Zoom Hand #87845352568: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2012/10/18 16:33:48 CET [2012/10/18 10:33:48 ET]
Table Gotha 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: TianYuan ($271.49 in chips)
Seat 2: m0rtengud ($118.14 in chips)
Seat 3: Quaylou ($48.58 in chips)
Seat 4: MariusMikal ($93.85 in chips)
Seat 5: reddeevil ($196.70 in chips)
Seat 6: KtheKing ($127.15 in chips)
m0rtengud: posts small blind $0.50
Quaylou: posts big blind $1
Holecards
Dealt to TianYuan
MariusMikal: folds
reddeevil: raises $2 to $3
KtheKing: folds
TianYuan: calls $3
m0rtengud: folds
Quaylou: folds
Flop (Pot : $7.50)
reddeevil: bets $6
TianYuan: calls $6
Turn (Pot : $19.50)
reddeevil: bets $18.62
TianYuan: calls $18.62
River (Pot : $56.74)
reddeevil: bets $27
TianYuan: raises $52.50 to $79.50
Not seen much before today, has normal stats .
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nlwolf   United Kingdom. Oct 18 2012 10:48. Posts 308 | | |
I don't get it. What was your thought process?
He's not value betting weaker, and probably not vb QJ.
So raising here is a bluff and I dont see how you are folding enough of better hands for it to be best option
It is basically: risk 80 to win ~80. so you need to fold out half of better hands.
AA,TT is not folding
KK is maybe folding (except KKT, AKK)
there are some AT combos too (AQJT, AT+FD etc) that value bet turn
KT probably not betting turn |
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TianYuan   Korea (South). Oct 18 2012 10:53. Posts 6817 | | |
I felt like when he pots turn and switches to halfpot on this river, he has QJ way more than he does AA, and halfpot is kind of a 'want to showdown' size. Also slight timing discrepancy that might not mean much, but he very very quickly potted the turn, and stopped for a second before betting river. I feel like most players don't pot the turn with sets here too. |
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TianYuan   Korea (South). Oct 18 2012 11:11. Posts 6817 | | |
And given my line of call/call, why would he bet weak here, when I should - somewhat frequently - be strong? I should have a decent amount of AT with something, or KT with something or KK. I duno, seems like a river he could bet bigger... |
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CamilaPunt   Brasil. Oct 18 2012 11:36. Posts 2422 | | |
just looks unnecessary specially being zoom
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Daut   United States. Oct 18 2012 11:52. Posts 8955 | | |
why would anyone ever bet QJ here? there is a good reason to bet 3 streets with sets though thinking you might be drawing. so question becomes do you get boats to fold? i would be pretty sick to my stomach with KK here.... |
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NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut | |
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TianYuan   Korea (South). Oct 18 2012 12:55. Posts 6817 | | |
Lol wonder what he folded D:
Given the speed tho I doubt it was KK... |
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Hm.. Off-suite socks.. | Last edit: 18/10/2012 12:56 |
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Daut   United States. Oct 18 2012 20:12. Posts 8955 | | |
| On October 18 2012 18:52 RaSZi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 10:52 Daut wrote:
why would anyone ever bet QJ here? there is a good reason to bet 3 streets with sets though thinking you might be drawing. so question becomes do you get boats to fold? i would be pretty sick to my stomach with KK here.... |
How many people flat AA on the button?
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people do. and i actually realized the raise size wasnt all that big. i just assumed it was pot. i wouldnt fold KK here to that sizing. |
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NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut | |
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Mardagg   Germany. Oct 18 2012 20:34. Posts 843 | | |
i like a minraise here.
He folded?
Probably was AKxx .
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