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Handnr: 989547
Submitted by : TianYuan

PokerStars Zoom Hand #88156181872: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2012/10/24 19:18:10 CET [2012/10/24 13:18:10 ET]
Table Gotha 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Bellebone ($100 in chips)
Seat 2: Guigabraza ($63.93 in chips)
Seat 3: Fazia1 ($119.09 in chips)
Seat 4: TianYuan ($143.36 in chips)
Seat 5: DRKRUCHY ($109.39 in chips)
Seat 6: Limwonster ($143.65 in chips)
Guigabraza: posts small blind $0.50
Fazia1: posts big blind $1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to TianYuan Qh8c9sJs
TianYuan: raises $2.50 to $3.50
DRKRUCHY: folds
Limwonster: calls $3.50
Bellebone: folds
Guigabraza: folds
Fazia1: calls $2.50

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $11.00)

   Jc8hTh
Fazia1: checks
TianYuan: bets $8
Limwonster: calls $8
Fazia1: folds

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $27.00)

   Jc8hTh6c
TianYuan: checks
Limwonster: bets $16.56
TianYuan: raises $58.90 to $75.46
Limwonster: raises $56.69 to $132.15 and is all-in
TianYuan: calls $56.40 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.29) returned to Limwonster

River (Pot : $290.72)

   Jc8hTh6c3c

Showdown
TianYuan: shows Qh8c9sJs (a straight, Eight to Queen)
Limwonster: shows 8d7h9hTs (a straight, Seven to Jack)
TianYuan collected $287.92 from pot

Summary
Total pot $290.72 | Rake $2.80
Board  Jc8hTh6c3c
Seat 1: Bellebone (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: Guigabraza (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Fazia1 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: TianYuan showed Qh8c9sJs and won ($287.92) with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 5: DRKRUCHY folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Limwonster showed 8d7h9hTs and lost with a straight, Seven to Jack
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TianYuan    Korea (South). Oct 24 2012 13:23. Posts 6817

On the right side of almost all the coolers, ran good in big pots, only 'ran bad' in river calls (they always made their weird turned gutshots when their main draws missed and they barreled). 6 buyins above EV feels nice

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nlwolf   United Kingdom. Oct 24 2012 13:24. Posts 308

I think betting is superior to checking.
He calls with lot of hands that would check behind if you check too.
River CF on primary flush, call or fold on secondary flush (depending on sizing and which card it was exactly), bet huge on other cards (unpaired).

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TianYuan    Korea (South). Oct 24 2012 13:26. Posts 6817

Any hands you'd check here (intending to c/r)?

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sunnysky7   . Oct 24 2012 13:31. Posts 1549

I like the turn c/r, it enhance our checking range a lot
Also even we pot the turn villain can still call w/ very wide range and we will make more mistakes than villain
It sucks when turn go chk/chk but we can play a smaller pot this way tho
WP imo

 Last edit: 24/10/2012 13:32

nlwolf   United Kingdom. Oct 24 2012 13:32. Posts 308


  On October 24 2012 12:26 TianYuan wrote:
Any hands you'd check here (intending to c/r)?



Not vs average or unknown player.
Vs very aggro players who will bet very often when checked to yes.

Problem with checking is that almost every river changes texture considerably, so you won't get any extra value from 2prs or PR+FD.

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TianYuan    Korea (South). Oct 24 2012 13:46. Posts 6817


  On October 24 2012 12:31 sunnysky7 wrote:
I like the turn c/r, it enhance our checking range a lot
Also even we pot the turn villain can still call w/ very wide range and we will make more mistakes than villain
It sucks when turn go chk/chk but we can play a smaller pot this way tho
WP imo


This was my reasoning as well, but we still end up with like 50bb on the river when we c/r if he somehow just flats, which isn't that much better than being in a 50bb pot with 100bb behind, I think?

But yeah, I definitely like the aspect of strengthening my checking range, though this guy isn't someone I play a ton with so might be irrelevant... I do also feel like people bet turn a bit more than they perhaps should in general, which is an argument for c/r.

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