PokerStars Zoom Hand #88261563676: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2012/10/26 21:27:52 CET [2012/10/26 15:27:52 ET]
Table Gotha 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hattenaf ($61 in chips)
Seat 2: Miltos14 ($97 in chips)
Seat 3: Marois76 ($187.68 in chips)
Seat 4: keevo1 ($114.31 in chips)
Seat 5: TihiaDon ($107 in chips)
Seat 6: TianYuan ($378.57 in chips)
Miltos14: posts small blind $0.50
Marois76: posts big blind $1
Holecards
Dealt to TianYuan 
keevo1: folds
TihiaDon: raises $1 to $2
TianYuan: raises $5.50 to $7.50
Hattenaf: folds
Miltos14: calls $7
Marois76: folds
TihiaDon: calls $5.50
Flop (Pot : $23.50)
Miltos14: checks
TihiaDon: bets $22.44
TianYuan: raises $67.32 to $89.76
Miltos14: folds
TihiaDon: raises $9.74 to $99.50 and is all-in
TianYuan: calls $9.74
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TianYuan  Korea (South). Oct 26 2012 16:01. Posts 6817 | | |
If I was HU I think it's still pretty close whether I should get in (need about 44% equity I think). Not sure how much the 3rd person should sway my decision --- he's not exactly tight (read: very loose pre). |
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asdf2000 United States. Oct 26 2012 16:27. Posts 7702 | | |
I think this is a pretty easy fold to the flop bet. |
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TianYuan Korea (South). Oct 26 2012 16:42. Posts 6817 | | |
Really? Is that because of the 3rd person, because I m not entirely convinced we're not going to have the required 44% vs a leading range here... (the guy is unknown but on the looser side, his actual hand was like A832 with spades iirc).
I guess without a read it's hard to say whether pot lead means marginal/draw or monster, and maybe that in itself is enough of a reason to not take a very close to neutral EV option. Hum. |
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MiPwnYa Brasil. Oct 26 2012 16:45. Posts 5230 | | |
its nothing super easy lol
a very frequent shitspot
folding prob superior to stacking off |
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asdf2000 United States. Oct 26 2012 17:47. Posts 7702 | | |
I think its pretty obvious here ur gonna be way behind a lot
and never far ahead |
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nlwolf United Kingdom. Oct 26 2012 18:47. Posts 308 | | |
I wait for non-flush turn
If turn is flush i check behind and probably bluff river. |
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MiPwnYa Brasil. Oct 26 2012 18:49. Posts 5230 | | |
WE DONT HAVE MANY FLUSH DRAWS IN OUR RANGE FOR FLATTIN FLOP DO WE
AND BY NOT MANY I MEAN NONE |
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nlwolf United Kingdom. Oct 26 2012 18:52. Posts 308 | | |
Not many but some.
Also - .5/1 villain probably doesn't know that. |
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when you only committed $7.5 (less than 10% of your stack), why would you ever wanna committ your whole stack on this flop against 2 ppl?
i mean its probably a Cbet/call-fold spot if we didnt have postition
this looks like a -EV play imo |
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Nazgul Netherlands. Oct 27 2012 01:03. Posts 7080 | | |
| | On October 26 2012 15:45 MiPwnYa wrote:
its nothing super easy lol
a very frequent shitspot
folding prob superior to stacking off |
I'd get it being more difficult if it was checked and you bet it in position, but when you can still just fold the flop to his lead doesn't that make it a lot easier of a decision? |
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TianYuan Korea (South). Oct 27 2012 02:03. Posts 6817 | | |
I think if we bet it would be easy stackoff vs one player. I think the argument that almost no matter his range we arent banking mad monirs, but if its on the tighter side we are making a big error, is.pretty convincing tho |
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Twisted Netherlands. Oct 27 2012 04:20. Posts 10422 | | |
People really should stop saying 'we only committed XX amount'. It doesn't have anything to do with our EV in the hand. |
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