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Submitted by : TianYuan

PokerStars Zoom Hand #88261563676: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2012/10/26 21:27:52 CET [2012/10/26 15:27:52 ET]
Table Gotha 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hattenaf ($61 in chips)
Seat 2: Miltos14 ($97 in chips)
Seat 3: Marois76 ($187.68 in chips)
Seat 4: keevo1 ($114.31 in chips)
Seat 5: TihiaDon ($107 in chips)
Seat 6: TianYuan ($378.57 in chips)
Miltos14: posts small blind $0.50
Marois76: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to TianYuan Ac2cKhAh
keevo1: folds
TihiaDon: raises $1 to $2
TianYuan: raises $5.50 to $7.50
Hattenaf: folds
Miltos14: calls $7
Marois76: folds
TihiaDon: calls $5.50

Flop (Pot : $23.50)

   JsTs3h
Miltos14: checks
TihiaDon: bets $22.44
TianYuan: raises $67.32 to $89.76
Miltos14: folds
TihiaDon: raises $9.74 to $99.50 and is all-in
TianYuan: calls $9.74

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TianYuan    Korea (South). Oct 26 2012 16:01. Posts 6817

If I was HU I think it's still pretty close whether I should get in (need about 44% equity I think). Not sure how much the 3rd person should sway my decision --- he's not exactly tight (read: very loose pre).

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Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

asdf2000   United States. Oct 26 2012 16:27. Posts 7695

I think this is a pretty easy fold to the flop bet.

Grindin so hard, Im smashin pussies left and right. 

TianYuan    Korea (South). Oct 26 2012 16:42. Posts 6817

Really? Is that because of the 3rd person, because I m not entirely convinced we're not going to have the required 44% vs a leading range here... (the guy is unknown but on the looser side, his actual hand was like A832 with spades iirc).

I guess without a read it's hard to say whether pot lead means marginal/draw or monster, and maybe that in itself is enough of a reason to not take a very close to neutral EV option. Hum.

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

MiPwnYa    Brasil. Oct 26 2012 16:45. Posts 5230

its nothing super easy lol
a very frequent shitspot
folding prob superior to stacking off


asdf2000   United States. Oct 26 2012 17:47. Posts 7695

I think its pretty obvious here ur gonna be way behind a lot
and never far ahead

Grindin so hard, Im smashin pussies left and right. 

nlwolf   United Kingdom. Oct 26 2012 18:47. Posts 308

I wait for non-flush turn
If turn is flush i check behind and probably bluff river.

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MiPwnYa    Brasil. Oct 26 2012 18:49. Posts 5230

WE DONT HAVE MANY FLUSH DRAWS IN OUR RANGE FOR FLATTIN FLOP DO WE
AND BY NOT MANY I MEAN NONE


nlwolf   United Kingdom. Oct 26 2012 18:52. Posts 308

Not many but some.
Also - .5/1 villain probably doesn't know that.

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sunnysky7   . Oct 26 2012 22:30. Posts 1549

when you only committed $7.5 (less than 10% of your stack), why would you ever wanna committ your whole stack on this flop against 2 ppl?
i mean its probably a Cbet/call-fold spot if we didnt have postition
this looks like a -EV play imo


Mortensen8   Chad. Oct 26 2012 22:37. Posts 1841

I'm stacking off here

Rear naked woke 

Nazgul    Netherlands. Oct 27 2012 01:03. Posts 7080


  On October 26 2012 15:45 MiPwnYa wrote:
its nothing super easy lol
a very frequent shitspot
folding prob superior to stacking off


I'd get it being more difficult if it was checked and you bet it in position, but when you can still just fold the flop to his lead doesn't that make it a lot easier of a decision?

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

TianYuan    Korea (South). Oct 27 2012 02:03. Posts 6817

I think if we bet it would be easy stackoff vs one player. I think the argument that almost no matter his range we arent banking mad monirs, but if its on the tighter side we are making a big error, is.pretty convincing tho

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

Twisted    Netherlands. Oct 27 2012 04:20. Posts 10422

People really should stop saying 'we only committed XX amount'. It doesn't have anything to do with our EV in the hand.


 

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