PokerStars Zoom Hand #89134077856: Holdem No Limit ($2.50/$5.00) - 2012/11/12 13:02:39 ET
Table Lambda Velorum 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: bartekowa ($996.84 in chips)
Seat 2: miltosjj ($689.76 in chips)
Seat 3: NCSU2012 ($515 in chips)
Seat 4: Stroggos_nz ($510 in chips)
Seat 5: mindbox ($560.49 in chips)
Seat 6: flong78 ($524.24 in chips)
miltosjj: posts small blind $2.50
NCSU2012: posts big blind $5
Holecards
Dealt to Stroggos_nz 
Stroggos_nz: raises $10 to $15
mindbox: folds
flong78: raises $30 to $45
bartekowa: raises $50 to $95
miltosjj: folds
NCSU2012: raises $420 to $515 and is all-in
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Nov 12 2012 13:13. Posts 5329 | | |
fold here is good right? calling seems a bit BE but i suck at maths.. |
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I dunno opponets but propably i will never fold KK on 100bb unless one of them is a huge nit... but hard to believe that one of them dont have AA here so meaby.
Naaaaaah... i cant fold KK on 100bb so time to donate one of them  |
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jvilla777 Australia. Nov 12 2012 14:08. Posts 1348 | | |
yeh cant fold KK for 100bbs pre |
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| longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! | |
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Oly United Kingdom. Nov 12 2012 14:14. Posts 3585 | | |
I've been thinking about this. I started off thinking it would be close but apparently it isn't at all. We can start by giving NCSU {QQ+,AK} against which we are approximately equivalent to facing AK, so the question comes down to what % of range AA is of the other two players, since we can expect them to fold everything else (obviously lots of assumptions going on here). If bart were to only cold 4bet for value, then AA is about 25% of his range at the minimum with card removal. Using the same methodology, AA should be about 10% of flong's range. So one of them will show up with AA about 30% of the time. So 70% of the time you have about 70% equity, and 30% of the time you have maybe 17% but 3way. Now 70% of 70% equity is approximately 50%, so everything else is overlay, and everything else is quite a lot of EV (money in the pot and equity when facing AA, being called by worse 3way) making it a very clear call. These numbers are guesswork, but they have to be in a close enough region and there is so much overlay they can be quite a bit off and it's still a call. A lot depends on if you can give NCSU QQ and AK here.
edit: looking at it again, in general my numbers lean towards the conservative; it surely is a call. |
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Nov 12 2012 14:24. Posts 5329 | | | |
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mnj United States. Nov 12 2012 14:25. Posts 3848 | | |
this is a dodgable cooler imo |
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dnagardi Hungary. Nov 12 2012 14:48. Posts 1776 | | |
without stats im not folding ever for 100bb |
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Corde United Kingdom. Nov 12 2012 15:48. Posts 1099 | | | |
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asdf2000 United States. Nov 12 2012 16:46. Posts 7695 | | |
this is completely based on what you know of the players |
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Mardagg Germany. Nov 12 2012 20:51. Posts 843 | | |
i dont think its good to fold KK preflop at 200NL+.
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