PokerStars Hand #89301990242: Holdem No Limit ($5/$10 USD) - 2012/11/15 17:39:06 ET
Table Reginita II 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: maloyd ($1350.58 in chips)
Seat 2: longple ($3072.79 in chips)
Seat 3: C1awViper ($3106.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Eduts ($2237.98 in chips)
Seat 6: KlaSun ($1492 in chips)
KlaSun: posts small blind $5
maloyd: posts big blind $10
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to longple
longple: raises $15 to $25
C1awViper: raises $65 to $90
Eduts: calls $90
KlaSun: folds
maloyd: folds
longple: calls $65
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $285.00)
longple: bets $210
C1awViper: raises $365.04 to $575.04
Eduts: folds
longple: raises $434.96 to $1010
C1awViper said, "and now ul lshow up with aa for sure"
C1awViper: raises $2006.80 to $3016.80 and is all-in
longple: calls $1972.79 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($34.01) returned to C1awViper
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $6,250.58)
River (Pot : $6,250.58)
Showdown
longple: shows (three of a kind, Eights)
C1awViper: mucks hand
longple collected $6247.58 from pot
Summary
Total pot $6250.58 | Rake $3
Board
Seat 1: maloyd (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: longple showed and won ($6247.58) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 3: C1awViper mucked
Seat 4: Eduts (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: KlaSun (small blind) folded before Flop
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Tsukuyomi   Norway. Nov 15 2012 17:43. Posts 245 | | |
graph time |
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Daut   United States. Nov 15 2012 17:44. Posts 8955 | | |
i still think it's just bad fundamentally and there's no argument for playing this way. if his bluff range is too heavy u want to chk, if his value range is too heavy u want to fold pre. theres no in between. u just got lucky here he had 1 of the very few hands u beat that could potentially call down .. but anybody even reasonable is gonna know u cant be bluffing in this spot.
just my opinion tho. |
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NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut | |
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longple   Sweden. Nov 15 2012 17:45. Posts 4472 | | |
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longple   Sweden. Nov 15 2012 17:47. Posts 4472 | | |
C1awViper: clicklcilcilcik
C1awViper: ops nuts |
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Eluflop   Estonia. Nov 15 2012 17:55. Posts 3835 | | |
you are my hero , post dat sexy graph man |
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Jamie217   Canada. Nov 15 2012 17:57. Posts 4351 | | |
| On November 15 2012 16:44 Daut wrote:
i still think it's just bad fundamentally and there's no argument for playing this way. if his bluff range is too heavy u want to chk, if his value range is too heavy u want to fold pre. theres no in between. u just got lucky here he had 1 of the very few hands u beat that could potentially call down .. but anybody even reasonable is gonna know u cant be bluffing in this spot.
just my opinion tho. |
completely agreed |
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jvilla777   Australia. Nov 15 2012 17:58. Posts 1348 | | |
holy shit clawviper gettin pwnd |
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longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! | |
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Zep   United States. Nov 15 2012 18:01. Posts 2292 | | |
| On November 15 2012 16:44 Daut wrote:
i still think it's just bad fundamentally and there's no argument for playing this way. if his bluff range is too heavy u want to chk, if his value range is too heavy u want to fold pre. theres no in between. u just got lucky here he had 1 of the very few hands u beat that could potentially call down .. but anybody even reasonable is gonna know u cant be bluffing in this spot.
just my opinion tho. |
uhh did you account for eduts cold calling the 3-bet? |
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NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. | |
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longple   Sweden. Nov 15 2012 18:02. Posts 4472 | | |
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2c0ntent   Egypt. Nov 15 2012 18:03. Posts 1387 | | |
| On November 15 2012 16:44 Daut wrote:
i still think it's just bad fundamentally and there's no argument for playing this way. if his bluff range is too heavy u want to chk, if his value range is too heavy u want to fold pre. theres no in between. u just got lucky here he had 1 of the very few hands u beat that could potentially call down .. but anybody even reasonable is gonna know u cant be bluffing in this spot.
just my opinion tho. |
isn't it likely he checks 100% of his bluffing range on this flop 3 way, leading at least changes the action that he expected and can cause his brain to misfire. not saying I'd expect this to be best move against a disciplined player tho. |
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Daut   United States. Nov 15 2012 18:04. Posts 8955 | | |
| On November 15 2012 17:03 2c0ntent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 16:44 Daut wrote:
i still think it's just bad fundamentally and there's no argument for playing this way. if his bluff range is too heavy u want to chk, if his value range is too heavy u want to fold pre. theres no in between. u just got lucky here he had 1 of the very few hands u beat that could potentially call down .. but anybody even reasonable is gonna know u cant be bluffing in this spot.
just my opinion tho. |
isn't it likely he checks 100% of his bluffing range on this flop 3 way, leading at least changes the action that he expected and can cause his brain to misfire. not saying I'd expect this to be best move against a disciplined player tho.
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| On November 15 2012 17:01 Zep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 16:44 Daut wrote:
i still think it's just bad fundamentally and there's no argument for playing this way. if his bluff range is too heavy u want to chk, if his value range is too heavy u want to fold pre. theres no in between. u just got lucky here he had 1 of the very few hands u beat that could potentially call down .. but anybody even reasonable is gonna know u cant be bluffing in this spot.
just my opinion tho. |
uhh did you account for eduts cold calling the 3-bet?
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http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/991881 |
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NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut | |
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2c0ntent   Egypt. Nov 15 2012 18:08. Posts 1387 | | |
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AndrewSong   United States. Nov 15 2012 18:40. Posts 2355 | | |
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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Nov 15 2012 18:56. Posts 5113 | | |
its 3-buyins deep and other guy cant fold an overpair... why is the preflop call bad ? I dont get |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 15 2012 19:37. Posts 8649 | | |
| On November 15 2012 17:56 VanDerMeyde wrote:
its 3-buyins deep and other guy cant fold an overpair... why is the preflop call bad ? I dont get |
hmm location norway this must be an advanced re-level i guess |
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Mardagg   Germany. Nov 15 2012 19:39. Posts 843 | | |
c1awviper did suck 1.5 years ago when i took like 12 buyins from him on 1 day at 100NL deep tables and apparently he still sucks.
Must be rich or won a big tourney to play that high.
I think you played all posted hands vs him near perfect.Setmining this player is +++++ev all day and when deep this is doable even in 3+ bet pots.
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 15 2012 19:41. Posts 8649 | | |
| On November 15 2012 18:39 Mardagg wrote:
c1awviper did suck 1.5 years ago when i took like 12 buyins from him on 1 day at 100NL deep tables
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Was it a hot and dry day in El Paso? |
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Truck-Crash Life | Last edit: 16/11/2012 00:40 |
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Joeingram1   United States. Nov 15 2012 19:48. Posts 943 | | |
| On November 15 2012 16:44 Daut wrote:
i still think it's just bad fundamentally and there's no argument for playing this way. if his bluff range is too heavy u want to chk, if his value range is too heavy u want to fold pre. theres no in between. u just got lucky here he had 1 of the very few hands u beat that could potentially call down .. but anybody even reasonable is gonna know u cant be bluffing in this spot.
just my opinion tho. |
lolllllll
i was like wait didn't i JUST read this same thing somewhere!
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Baalim   Mexico. Nov 15 2012 20:10. Posts 34262 | | |
| On November 15 2012 16:44 Daut wrote:
i still think it's just bad fundamentally and there's no argument for playing this way. if his bluff range is too heavy u want to chk, if his value range is too heavy u want to fold pre. theres no in between. u just got lucky here he had 1 of the very few hands u beat that could potentially call down .. but anybody even reasonable is gonna know u cant be bluffing in this spot.
just my opinion tho. |
villian called 300bbs with QQ there and its a 3 way pot, calling with 88 preflop is fine.
Longple is clicking buttons but Clawviper is clicking buttons back and even worse. |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Nov 15 2012 20:45. Posts 6374 | | |
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MARSHALL28   United States. Nov 15 2012 22:49. Posts 1897 | | |
| On November 15 2012 16:44 Daut wrote:
i still think it's just bad fundamentally and there's no argument for playing this way. if his bluff range is too heavy u want to chk, if his value range is too heavy u want to fold pre. theres no in between. u just got lucky here he had 1 of the very few hands u beat that could potentially call down .. but anybody even reasonable is gonna know u cant be bluffing in this spot.
just my opinion tho. |
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why |
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handbanana21   United States. Nov 15 2012 23:33. Posts 3037 | | |
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longple   Sweden. Nov 16 2012 02:26. Posts 4472 | | |
clawviper is def one of the better regs on 5/10 stars, he gives every1 action HU and hes gotten alot better in the last year, he was kind of spewing this session he was down 18k in my hud on 5/10 and said he was down alot more on 10/20. i guess he has some tiltissues but normally i he is really solid/kind of annoying |
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Baalim   Mexico. Nov 16 2012 03:48. Posts 34262 | | |
chat kind gives the sick tilt away.
I dont use the stat for won/lost is useful? |
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longple   Sweden. Nov 16 2012 04:44. Posts 4472 | | |
no stat, just click the hud for the popup in HEM and u can see results for session/all hands |
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MARSHALL28   United States. Nov 16 2012 16:49. Posts 1897 | | |
| On November 15 2012 16:44 Daut wrote:
i still think it's just bad fundamentally and there's no argument for playing this way. if his bluff range is too heavy u want to chk, if his value range is too heavy u want to fold pre. theres no in between. u just got lucky here he had 1 of the very few hands u beat that could potentially call down .. but anybody even reasonable is gonna know u cant be bluffing in this spot.
just my opinion tho. |
this doesnt even apply in this situation at all |
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