stats above
value bet to thin ?

o_O not even close to thin imo

slam dunk big vbet. Would you guys fold to a raise when you bet?

On November 18 2012 15:35 LemOn[5thF] wrote: slam dunk big vbet. Would you guys fold to a raise when you bet?

yea nobody bluffs there

I pot it right here. Looks like you're trying to fold out his pp's with a busted draw/a-high or some crap.

Against a reg I overbet, against this guy who would have no idea what of ranges or what an overbet reps I'd just go near pot.

And I'd bet flop and turn a little bigger. You can even try a value overbet on this turn cos he never ever folds an oesd or flush draw let alone a pair with a gutty plus. Super value in going silly on the turn.

On November 18 2012 15:45 Oly wrote: Against a reg I overbet, against this guy who would have no idea what of ranges or what an overbet reps I'd just go near pot.

yea this is pretty much exactly what i was thinking. although i think some regs are sophisticated enough to know that a big bet doesn't have to be ultra-polarized on this board so i would just bet near-pot vs some regs too

double post below

+ Show Spoiler +

snap call.

On November 18 2012 16:26 pat_bateman wrote: snap fold.

FYP

call river
and it's an easy call.

I guess you haven't played nlhe online since 1997
fish just don't bluff these spots (and if they do we would already have a read)

make the beg so big it is snapfold when they raise, don't make bets where you can lever urself

if you're betting with the intention of folding to a raise then him raising shouldn't be that frequent of a happening. and hence you should size it looking for the highest number he will call with worse, not the smallest he will avoid raising with worse.

alternatively, size it the biggest he will raise with worse and do a bet/call

you cant possibly fold the river for a min raise vs a 51 vpip drooler... thats completley insane

51 vpip drooler with 1.1 af. with 5 pfr
the kind of fish extremely passive who just never bluff this spot.
come on please ...

On November 18 2012 15:38 bigredhoss wrote: Show nested quote + On November 18 2012 15:35 LemOn[5thF] wrote: slam dunk big vbet. Would you guys fold to a raise when you bet? yea nobody bluffs there

to be fair i was assuming a raise meant shove or something close to that, not minraise. minraise still seems like puke spot to me tbh.

this is an extremley easy call, you guys are nuts

i dont disagree w/call for the minraise i guess i just feel it's more of a sigh potodds call i.e. i think we're good less than half the time. maybe i should slightly re-calibrate my assumptions for this spot.

are you (at least) calling 100% of your river vbet range tom?

THAT WOULD BE A VERY THIN VBET
-.-!

yeah 100%, so prob JT+

i probably just flip a coin on the river when he raises tbh. can't really see myself folding but have no idea what the hell he'd be raising with

thx

fold