PokerStars Hand #89976808746: Holdem No Limit ($2/$4 USD) - 2012/11/28 22:03:04 ET
Table Robeson II 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Schmeff ($1185.58 in chips)
Seat 5: Stroggos_nz ($1710.60 in chips)
Schmeff: posts small blind $2
Stroggos_nz: posts big blind $4
Schmeff: posts the ante $0.80
Stroggos_nz: posts the ante $0.80
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Stroggos_nz
Schmeff: raises $6 to $10
Stroggos_nz: calls $6
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $20.00)
Stroggos_nz: checks
Schmeff: bets $14
Stroggos_nz: raises $26 to $40
Schmeff: raises $70 to $110
Stroggos_nz: calls $70
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $240.00)
Stroggos_nz: checks
Schmeff: bets $210
Stroggos_nz: calls $210
River (Pot : $660.00)
Stroggos_nz: checks
Schmeff: checks
Showdown
Stroggos_nz: shows (two pair, Aces and Nines)
Schmeff: shows (a straight, Five to Nine)
Schmeff collected $661.10 from pot
Summary
Total pot $661.60 | Rake $0.50
Board
Seat 1: Schmeff (button) (small blind) showed and won ($661.10) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 5: Stroggos_nz (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
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devon06atX   Canada. Nov 28 2012 22:09. Posts 5459 | | |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 28 2012 22:21. Posts 8649 | | |
yeah i know schmeff is good but river check behind seems so absurd like wtf
only thing i can think of is that he thinks his perceived flop 3-betting range doesn't contain any flushes b/c open enders w/backdoor flush draws have enough equity to flat flop or something (still seems like he could raise those anyway obviously), and actually expects you to be exploiting that at an optimal frequency.
seems like a huge stretch though lol
maybe misread his hand? -.- |
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Truck-Crash Life | Last edit: 28/11/2012 22:22 |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 28 2012 22:25. Posts 8649 | | |
not to mention Ac is on the board and turn means you couldn't even potentially have 98cc
confirmed softplaying |
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Truck-Crash Life | Last edit: 28/11/2012 22:27 |
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Nov 28 2012 23:11. Posts 5329 | | |
he plays very nitty on rivers. which is good for me because im very capped after the flop vs him.
he also 50 tables so gotta make his decision quickly lol |
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One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings | Last edit: 28/11/2012 23:11 |
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cariadon   Estonia. Nov 28 2012 23:31. Posts 4019 | | |
i don't get it. why wouldn't he valuebet this ?? makes no sense to me
can anyone explain why he doesn't valuebet here in laymans terms ? |
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player999   Brasil. Nov 28 2012 23:38. Posts 7978 | | |
I'm always amazed at the fact that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, when analizing a hand, takes into account the possibility of misclicks, they actually happen |
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Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol | |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 28 2012 23:44. Posts 8649 | | |
when was the last hand you were amazed that nobody accounted for the possibility of misclick?
you're right though seems as likely as anything here i guess |
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Truck-Crash Life | Last edit: 28/11/2012 23:46 |
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Nov 29 2012 00:07. Posts 5329 | | |
i don't think this is a missclick. I've played 10k+ hands with him now and he just gets really scared of the backdoor flush, or any river card that one of my bluffcatchers can hit. But also even though i'm really capped on rivers vs him as i am playing super aggro on the flop, still doesn't mean that i'm weak by the river, as it looks like a small proportion of my bluffcatchers hit the river. (clubs+pair). He had no time to go through the combos(playing 100 tables) so just went by first glance and nitted it up with the insta check. |
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traxamillion   United States. Nov 29 2012 00:50. Posts 10468 | | |
You being capped on the flop Is kind of irrelevant to the river action. Assuming you weren't capped that is just adding hands he SHOULD be value betting versus on river.
Really this is just about ur cc hands vs hands worse than str8 u call with. And the Ac is out on the flop severely limiting those flush combos.
Not sure what this guy is really worried about here |
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player999   Brasil. Nov 29 2012 01:12. Posts 7978 | | |
| On November 28 2012 22:44 bigredhoss wrote:
when was the last hand you were amazed that nobody accounted for the possibility of misclick?
you're right though seems as likely as anything here i guess |
any hand that you think villain played horribly you think to yourself "lol what a fish"
I always keep in mind it could've been a misclick unless it happens again |
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Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol | |
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player999   Brasil. Nov 29 2012 01:25. Posts 7978 | | |
btw this discussion is dumb and he has to bet |
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Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol | |
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devon06atX   Canada. Nov 29 2012 01:28. Posts 5459 | | |
which 'he'?
both imo.
as stated previously, wtf at this hand |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Nov 29 2012 01:32. Posts 6540 | | |
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player999   Brasil. Nov 29 2012 01:34. Posts 7978 | | |
| On November 29 2012 00:28 devon06atX wrote:
which 'he'?
both imo.
as stated previously, wtf at this hand |
both what? hero donkbetting would be bad |
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Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol | Last edit: 29/11/2012 01:34 |
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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Nov 29 2012 01:41. Posts 5113 | | |
| On November 28 2012 22:11 Stroggoz wrote:
he plays very nitty on rivers. which is good for me because im very capped after the flop vs him.
he also 50 tables so gotta make his decision quickly lol |
50 tables WTF????????????? |
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Mariuslol   Norway. Nov 29 2012 04:51. Posts 4742 | | |
| On November 28 2012 22:38 player999 wrote:
I'm always amazed at the fact that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, when analizing a hand, takes into account the possibility of misclicks, they actually happen |
I try not to comment on hands of people who are a much higher level than me.
But right after reading this hand, I nodded, ah, he just mass tabling, didnt mean to check here.
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Mariuslol   Norway. Nov 29 2012 04:52. Posts 4742 | | |
| On November 29 2012 00:41 VanDerMeyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 22:11 Stroggoz wrote:
he plays very nitty on rivers. which is good for me because im very capped after the flop vs him.
he also 50 tables so gotta make his decision quickly lol |
50 tables WTF?????????????
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Maybe he's longpleing it up, loads of them Zoom, rest cash??
Or hmm, I think u can go over the limit if you add sng, mtts |
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Mardagg   Germany. Nov 29 2012 06:56. Posts 843 | | |
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